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Flight crew of medium large transport cleared to X runway turned up runway before turning off did not see designated taxiway.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 115762 |
| Time | |
| Date | 198907 |
| Day | Sat |
| Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : atl |
| State Reference | GA |
| Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
| Flight Phase | ground other : taxi |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 180 flight time total : 15000 flight time type : 8000 |
| ASRS Report | 115762 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | incursion : runway |
| Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact none taken : anomaly accepted |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
After landing on runway 8L in atlanta hartsfield, we were cleared to cross runway 8R at 'the delta jet base'. Quotations are the words of atl ground control. The problem encountered was finding the proper taxiway after crossing 8R. When you turn off 8L at taxiway B11 and proceed toward 8R you cannot see the taxiway on the other side which is E11. This taxiway angles back at a 45 degree angle and goes down hill making 17 very difficult to see until you are actually on runway 8R. I did not see taxiway E11 before I had turned right onto 8R. I then proceeded down runway 8R and turned off the runway at taxiway D. Some word of caution or NOTAM about the difficulty of 'finding' this particular taxiway (E11) would make pilots aware of the potential problem before getting on runway 8R and then looking for the taxiway?
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FLT CREW OF MLG CLEARED TO X RWY TURNED UP RWY BEFORE TURNING OFF DID NOT SEE DESIGNATED TXWY.
Narrative: AFTER LNDG ON RWY 8L IN ATLANTA HARTSFIELD, WE WERE CLRED TO CROSS RWY 8R AT 'THE DELTA JET BASE'. QUOTATIONS ARE THE WORDS OF ATL GND CTL. THE PROBLEM ENCOUNTERED WAS FINDING THE PROPER TXWY AFTER XING 8R. WHEN YOU TURN OFF 8L AT TXWY B11 AND PROCEED TOWARD 8R YOU CANNOT SEE THE TXWY ON THE OTHER SIDE WHICH IS E11. THIS TXWY ANGLES BACK AT A 45 DEG ANGLE AND GOES DOWN HILL MAKING 17 VERY DIFFICULT TO SEE UNTIL YOU ARE ACTUALLY ON RWY 8R. I DID NOT SEE TXWY E11 BEFORE I HAD TURNED RIGHT ONTO 8R. I THEN PROCEEDED DOWN RWY 8R AND TURNED OFF THE RWY AT TXWY D. SOME WORD OF CAUTION OR NOTAM ABOUT THE DIFFICULTY OF 'FINDING' THIS PARTICULAR TXWY (E11) WOULD MAKE PLTS AWARE OF THE POTENTIAL PROBLEM BEFORE GETTING ON RWY 8R AND THEN LOOKING FOR THE TXWY?
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.