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Attributes | |
ACN | 116102 |
Time | |
Date | 198906 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : sli |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 18000 msl bound upper : 20000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zla |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Large Transport, Low Wing, 3 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
Route In Use | departure sid : sid |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Flight Phase | cruise other other |
Route In Use | enroute : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : atp pilot : cfi pilot : commercial |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 170 flight time total : 15000 flight time type : 6000 |
ASRS Report | 116102 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Operational Deviation Inter Facility Coordination Failure |
Narrative:
Departed san for smf, cleared via peble one departure, seal beach transition. Climbing thru FL180 (EST) san departure control changed us to lax center. After checking in with center, we were requested to turn left to 270 degree (?) and maintain FL200. We did, and informed traffic passed us at FL210. (Center had expected us to fly a heading rather than the departure. We were unaware of any heading requirement from ATC.) there was no 'near miss' and 'evasive action' was very mild. In cockpit discussion later, crew was unable to reconstruct conversation with san departure, but we didn't recall being given a heading in lieu of the published procedure. Unpleasant note: my 3RD ATC incident in last 3 weeks, all along the west coast.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: DEP CTL ASSIGNED A SID, BUT CENTER EXPECTED A SPECIFIC HEADING RATHER THAN THE PUBLISHED PROC.
Narrative: DEPARTED SAN FOR SMF, CLRED VIA PEBLE ONE DEP, SEAL BEACH TRANSITION. CLIMBING THRU FL180 (EST) SAN DEP CTL CHANGED US TO LAX CENTER. AFTER CHECKING IN WITH CENTER, WE WERE REQUESTED TO TURN LEFT TO 270 DEG (?) AND MAINTAIN FL200. WE DID, AND INFORMED TFC PASSED US AT FL210. (CENTER HAD EXPECTED US TO FLY A HDG RATHER THAN THE DEP. WE WERE UNAWARE OF ANY HDG REQUIREMENT FROM ATC.) THERE WAS NO 'NEAR MISS' AND 'EVASIVE ACTION' WAS VERY MILD. IN COCKPIT DISCUSSION LATER, CREW WAS UNABLE TO RECONSTRUCT CONVERSATION WITH SAN DEP, BUT WE DIDN'T RECALL BEING GIVEN A HDG IN LIEU OF THE PUBLISHED PROC. UNPLEASANT NOTE: MY 3RD ATC INCIDENT IN LAST 3 WEEKS, ALL ALONG THE WEST COAST.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.