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Attributes | |
ACN | 116936 |
Time | |
Date | 198907 |
Day | Sat |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : dfw |
State Reference | TX |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 8300 msl bound upper : 10000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | Mixed |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : dfw artcc : zan |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | descent other |
Route In Use | arrival other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | descent other |
Route In Use | arrival other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time total : 11000 |
ASRS Report | 116936 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 6000 vertical : 1000 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
On downwind for runway 35R at dfw at approximately 8300' we spotted air carrier Y slightly above and to our right and ahead about 1 mi. The controller then vectored air carrier Y on a left descending turn across our flight path. No advisory was ever given to us of traffic and not until after we mentioned to the controller that we were concerned about our separation did he give us a 10 degree right turn. We lost sight of traffic ahead behind a cloud. Less than standard separation.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACR CROSSED IN FRONT OF ANOTHER ACR WHILE ON DOWNWIND.
Narrative: ON DOWNWIND FOR RWY 35R AT DFW AT APPROX 8300' WE SPOTTED ACR Y SLIGHTLY ABOVE AND TO OUR RIGHT AND AHEAD ABOUT 1 MI. THE CTLR THEN VECTORED ACR Y ON A LEFT DESCENDING TURN ACROSS OUR FLT PATH. NO ADVISORY WAS EVER GIVEN TO US OF TFC AND NOT UNTIL AFTER WE MENTIONED TO THE CTLR THAT WE WERE CONCERNED ABOUT OUR SEPARATION DID HE GIVE US A 10 DEG RIGHT TURN. WE LOST SIGHT OF TFC AHEAD BEHIND A CLOUD. LESS THAN STANDARD SEPARATION.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.