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Attributes | |
ACN | 118583 |
Time | |
Date | 198907 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : ord |
State Reference | IL |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 6500 msl bound upper : 8000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : ord |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Widebody, Low Wing, 3 Turbojet Eng |
Navigation In Use | Other |
Flight Phase | cruise other cruise other |
Route In Use | enroute : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : atp pilot : instrument |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 130 flight time total : 10000 flight time type : 50 |
ASRS Report | 118583 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 22000 flight time type : 150 |
ASRS Report | 117448 |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : excursion from assigned altitude non adherence : clearance other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | atc equipment other atc equipment : unspecified other controllera |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Ambiguous |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation Operational Deviation other |
Narrative:
We were cleared to 8000' on vector for runway 4R. All 3 pilots heard our clearance to 4000' and heading change to (I believe) 110 degrees. Captain dialed 4000' on altitude preselect and I started down. At 6500' approach control asked, 'how low are you going?' we replied, '4000'.' ATC said, 'you were only cleared to 8, maintain 6000 for now.' west leveled and maintained 6000'. We had acknowledged the 4000' clearance. Supplemental information from acn 117448: all three of us in the cockpit felt we had been cleared to 4000'--that 4000' had been read back and 4000' had been set in the altitude alert window and armed.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACR ACFT DESCENDS BELOW WHAT ATC THINKS HE WAS CLEARED TO.
Narrative: WE WERE CLRED TO 8000' ON VECTOR FOR RWY 4R. ALL 3 PLTS HEARD OUR CLRNC TO 4000' AND HDG CHANGE TO (I BELIEVE) 110 DEGS. CAPT DIALED 4000' ON ALT PRESELECT AND I STARTED DOWN. AT 6500' APCH CTL ASKED, 'HOW LOW ARE YOU GOING?' WE REPLIED, '4000'.' ATC SAID, 'YOU WERE ONLY CLRED TO 8, MAINTAIN 6000 FOR NOW.' W LEVELED AND MAINTAINED 6000'. WE HAD ACKNOWLEDGED THE 4000' CLRNC. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 117448: ALL THREE OF US IN THE COCKPIT FELT WE HAD BEEN CLRED TO 4000'--THAT 4000' HAD BEEN READ BACK AND 4000' HAD BEEN SET IN THE ALT ALERT WINDOW AND ARMED.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.