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Attributes | |
ACN | 120458 |
Time | |
Date | 198908 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : cle |
State Reference | OH |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 24000 msl bound upper : 29000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Dusk |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zob |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument pilot : flight engineer pilot : cfi pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 7000 flight time type : 500 |
ASRS Report | 120458 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance other |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Operational Deviation Intra Facility Coordination Failure |
Narrative:
Flight stl pit FL290 controller handed us off to another ZOB frequency. New controller asked us to confirm our altitude we told him we were FL290 assigned. He told us he showed us assigned FL240 then gave us FL240 we made a normal descent to FL240. I know of no conflict of traffic. Suspect controller (in training) handed us off at FL240 west/O telling us, or someone else answered for us. We never acknowledged the descent.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: MLG IN CRUISE AT FL290 HANDED OFF TO ANOTHER CTLR AT THE SAME FAC AS BEING AT FL240.
Narrative: FLT STL PIT FL290 CTLR HANDED US OFF TO ANOTHER ZOB FREQ. NEW CTLR ASKED US TO CONFIRM OUR ALT WE TOLD HIM WE WERE FL290 ASSIGNED. HE TOLD US HE SHOWED US ASSIGNED FL240 THEN GAVE US FL240 WE MADE A NORMAL DSCNT TO FL240. I KNOW OF NO CONFLICT OF TFC. SUSPECT CTLR (IN TRNING) HANDED US OFF AT FL240 W/O TELLING US, OR SOMEONE ELSE ANSWERED FOR US. WE NEVER ACKNOWLEDGED THE DSCNT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.