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Attemtping to stay out of building thunderstorms, cargo flight may have intruded on san juan airspace.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 120671 |
| Time | |
| Date | 198908 |
| Day | Sun |
| Local Time Of Day | 0001 To 0600 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : sju |
| State Reference | FO |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 25000 msl bound upper : 25000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | IMC |
| Light | Night |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | artcc : mdcs tower : foe |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Large Transport, Low Wing, 3 Turbojet Eng |
| Navigation In Use | Other |
| Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude cruise other |
| Route In Use | departure other |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 180 flight time total : 5000 flight time type : 1550 |
| ASRS Report | 120671 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 185 flight time total : 4500 flight time type : 185 |
| ASRS Report | 121039 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | inflight encounter : weather non adherence : clearance other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
| Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Massive, severe thunderstorm activity surrounded puj. After takeoff, I turned to the southeast where the activity seemed minimal. Nonetheless, I was forced into a spiraling climb over the airport to avoid WX. A turn to the north was my only possible course and I took it. This resulted in skirting san juan's airspace. My copilot was flying and I was directing turns based on radar interpretation. The cockpit was task-saturated. Additional problems arose from the poor english or the santo domingo controller. He required a position report every minute, despite the fact I explained we were in trouble and needed cooperation. His lack of radar meant he could not have an appreciation for our plight. Regardless, I apparently went into san juan airspace, but remained clear of the most severe WX. I later discussed the problem with san juan through ZMA and everything seemed smoothed over.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ATTEMTPING TO STAY OUT OF BUILDING TSTMS, CARGO FLT MAY HAVE INTRUDED ON SAN JUAN AIRSPACE.
Narrative: MASSIVE, SEVERE TSTM ACTIVITY SURROUNDED PUJ. AFTER TKOF, I TURNED TO THE SE WHERE THE ACTIVITY SEEMED MINIMAL. NONETHELESS, I WAS FORCED INTO A SPIRALING CLB OVER THE ARPT TO AVOID WX. A TURN TO THE N WAS MY ONLY POSSIBLE COURSE AND I TOOK IT. THIS RESULTED IN SKIRTING SAN JUAN'S AIRSPACE. MY COPLT WAS FLYING AND I WAS DIRECTING TURNS BASED ON RADAR INTERP. THE COCKPIT WAS TASK-SATURATED. ADDITIONAL PROBS AROSE FROM THE POOR ENGLISH OR THE SANTO DOMINGO CTLR. HE REQUIRED A POS RPT EVERY MINUTE, DESPITE THE FACT I EXPLAINED WE WERE IN TROUBLE AND NEEDED COOPERATION. HIS LACK OF RADAR MEANT HE COULD NOT HAVE AN APPRECIATION FOR OUR PLIGHT. REGARDLESS, I APPARENTLY WENT INTO SAN JUAN AIRSPACE, BUT REMAINED CLEAR OF THE MOST SEVERE WX. I LATER DISCUSSED THE PROB WITH SAN JUAN THROUGH ZMA AND EVERYTHING SEEMED SMOOTHED OVER.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.