Narrative:

We were flying the 'lynxx five arrival' into burbank (first officer's leg). About 10 mi east of the md VOR at 14,000' we were cleared to cross pmd at or below 13,000' and 10 west of pmd at 8000'. The STAR shows 8000' at the janny intersection. Janny is depicted as a DME fix but unlike the other fixes, such as eifel, the distance is not indicated next to the 'D'. After crossing pmd, pmd drops off of the cockpit screen, leaving only the next fixes showing. The first officer was initially concentrating on making the first restriction of slowing from cruise speed to be able to leave 10,000' at 250 KTS while still crossing pmd below 13,000. This accomplished, he saw 10 mi remaining to janny and thought that this was the next crossing restriction point. The screen was indicating the SID restriction of 8000' at janny. On my side I had retrieved the pmd VOR to xchk the first officer. My attention was distracted outside of the cockpit, as was the first officer's, looking at and for numerous VFR targets. When I looked back in, my screen showed 'pmd 240/5', and we still had 1700' yet to lose. I told the first officer. He replied, 'we still have a ways to go to the fix.' 'no, we only have 5 mi to go,' I said. He increased his rate but said 'I show 10 mi.' after which I explained the confusion. When aircraft are using a STAR with depicted altitudes, it might help if ATC would reference differences in crossing restrictions to the forward fixes, which are still showing on the screen, ie, in this case 'cross 5 mi east of janny at 8000',' to alert the crew to a deviation from the norm. Also, on all DME fixes the distance should appear next to the 'D' even if it can be deduced from other non-adjacent data.

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Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: ACKPT ACR CAPT DISCOVERS THAT FO PLT FLYING WILL NOT MAKE CROSSING RESTRICTION DUE TO HIS CONFUSION BETWEEN CRT MAP DISPLAY AND STAR CHART DEPICTION.

Narrative: WE WERE FLYING THE 'LYNXX FIVE ARRIVAL' INTO BURBANK (F/O'S LEG). ABOUT 10 MI E OF THE MD VOR AT 14,000' WE WERE CLRED TO CROSS PMD AT OR BELOW 13,000' AND 10 W OF PMD AT 8000'. THE STAR SHOWS 8000' AT THE JANNY INTXN. JANNY IS DEPICTED AS A DME FIX BUT UNLIKE THE OTHER FIXES, SUCH AS EIFEL, THE DISTANCE IS NOT INDICATED NEXT TO THE 'D'. AFTER XING PMD, PMD DROPS OFF OF THE COCKPIT SCREEN, LEAVING ONLY THE NEXT FIXES SHOWING. THE F/O WAS INITIALLY CONCENTRATING ON MAKING THE FIRST RESTRICTION OF SLOWING FROM CRUISE SPEED TO BE ABLE TO LEAVE 10,000' AT 250 KTS WHILE STILL XING PMD BELOW 13,000. THIS ACCOMPLISHED, HE SAW 10 MI REMAINING TO JANNY AND THOUGHT THAT THIS WAS THE NEXT XING RESTRICTION POINT. THE SCREEN WAS INDICATING THE SID RESTRICTION OF 8000' AT JANNY. ON MY SIDE I HAD RETRIEVED THE PMD VOR TO XCHK THE F/O. MY ATTN WAS DISTRACTED OUTSIDE OF THE COCKPIT, AS WAS THE F/O'S, LOOKING AT AND FOR NUMEROUS VFR TARGETS. WHEN I LOOKED BACK IN, MY SCREEN SHOWED 'PMD 240/5', AND WE STILL HAD 1700' YET TO LOSE. I TOLD THE F/O. HE REPLIED, 'WE STILL HAVE A WAYS TO GO TO THE FIX.' 'NO, WE ONLY HAVE 5 MI TO GO,' I SAID. HE INCREASED HIS RATE BUT SAID 'I SHOW 10 MI.' AFTER WHICH I EXPLAINED THE CONFUSION. WHEN ACFT ARE USING A STAR WITH DEPICTED ALTS, IT MIGHT HELP IF ATC WOULD REFERENCE DIFFERENCES IN XING RESTRICTIONS TO THE FORWARD FIXES, WHICH ARE STILL SHOWING ON THE SCREEN, IE, IN THIS CASE 'CROSS 5 MI E OF JANNY AT 8000',' TO ALERT THE CREW TO A DEVIATION FROM THE NORM. ALSO, ON ALL DME FIXES THE DISTANCE SHOULD APPEAR NEXT TO THE 'D' EVEN IF IT CAN BE DEDUCED FROM OTHER NON-ADJACENT DATA.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.