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Attributes | |
ACN | 1215942 |
Time | |
Date | 201411 |
Local Time Of Day | 1201-1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | ZFW.ARTCC |
State Reference | TX |
Environment | |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Function | Traffic Management |
Qualification | Air Traffic Control Fully Certified |
Experience | Air Traffic Control Time Certified In Pos 1 (yrs) 20.3 |
Events | |
Anomaly | ATC Issue All Types Inflight Event / Encounter Weather / Turbulence |
Narrative:
I was working NC1 position in tmu and started out the shift with weather impacting dfw metro-plex arrivals from the northeast. I coordinated with the controller working sector 42 and he advised that aircraft were deviating and we may need to move the aircraft overflying rrnet down to the fewww route. I called command center and relayed this; and also got her (name forgotten) opinion on the outlook from command center's view. I was told the area of weather west of the dfw area was more of a concern than the area northeast of dfw; but we'll see how it goes. As the morning progressed; coordination went back and forth between myself; D10 tmu; and the command center; as far as the RVR outage impacting one of the arrival runways and what to expect. D10 speculated the rate could go down to 60 and I relayed this. Weather moved in; turbulence was reported; and we were told that aircraft were conducting 'go-a-rounds' due to wind shear; and we went into holding at the corner posts. I remember at one point command center asking to talk to the stmc and I stayed on the line while he tried to implement a first tier ground stop with the possibility of a second tier ground stop. Command center did not agree to a first tier but said she could support ground stopping ZHU traffic inbound to dfw. I checked the fea's I had at the time and saw there were at least 5 aircraft proposed out of ZAB; and at least 3 or 4 out of ZKC. I didn't count the ones out of ZME but I noticed there were some. Command center said she would get back to us as far as a decision to ground stop all first tier. While we were awaiting that decision I took note that it had been quite a while without that decision and that ZAB had already launched 3 aircraft. As it turned out; I was told more than 70 aircraft were diverted.at ZFW I feel we accommodate as much as possible and ask a lot out of our controllers with as little impact on the NAS as possible. If we ask for help; I would like to see more trust put into our decision.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ZFW TMC reports of a dialog with the ATCSCC and D10 reference arrival and departure rates that he wants to implement reference the weather.
Narrative: I was working NC1 position in TMU and started out the shift with weather impacting DFW metro-plex arrivals from the northeast. I coordinated with the controller working sector 42 and he advised that aircraft were deviating and we may need to move the aircraft overflying RRNET down to the FEWWW route. I called command center and relayed this; and also got her (name forgotten) opinion on the outlook from command center's view. I was told the area of weather west of the DFW area was more of a concern than the area northeast of DFW; but we'll see how it goes. As the morning progressed; coordination went back and forth between myself; D10 TMU; and the command center; as far as the RVR outage impacting one of the arrival runways and what to expect. D10 speculated the rate could go down to 60 and I relayed this. Weather moved in; turbulence was reported; and we were told that aircraft were conducting 'go-a-rounds' due to wind shear; and we went into holding at the corner posts. I remember at one point command center asking to talk to the STMC and I stayed on the line while he tried to implement a first tier ground stop with the possibility of a second tier ground stop. Command center did not agree to a first tier but said she could support ground stopping ZHU traffic inbound to DFW. I checked the FEA's I had at the time and saw there were at least 5 aircraft proposed out of ZAB; and at least 3 or 4 out of ZKC. I didn't count the ones out of ZME but I noticed there were some. Command center said she would get back to us as far as a decision to ground stop all first tier. While we were awaiting that decision I took note that it had been quite a while without that decision and that ZAB had already launched 3 aircraft. As it turned out; I was told more than 70 aircraft were diverted.At ZFW I feel we accommodate as much as possible and ask a lot out of our controllers with as little impact on the NAS as possible. If we ask for help; I would like to see more trust put into our decision.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.