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Attributes | |
ACN | 1218161 |
Time | |
Date | 201411 |
Local Time Of Day | 1801-2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | ZAB.ARTCC |
State Reference | NM |
Environment | |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Make Model Name | Medium Transport Low Wing 2 Turbojet Eng |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | Cruise |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport Low Wing 2 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | Cruise |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Function | Enroute |
Qualification | Air Traffic Control Fully Certified |
Experience | Air Traffic Control Time Certified In Pos 1 (yrs) 14 |
Person 2 | |
Function | Pilot Flying Captain |
Qualification | Flight Crew Air Transport Pilot (ATP) |
Experience | Flight Crew Last 90 Days 100 Flight Crew Total 6500 Flight Crew Type 2500 |
Events | |
Anomaly | Conflict Airborne Conflict Deviation - Altitude Excursion From Assigned Altitude Deviation - Procedural Clearance |
Narrative:
Aircraft X entered my airspace westbound at FL400. The pilot asked for FL430 at some point in my airspace and I told him there was a recent report north of his position of continuous light chop. Aircraft X asked for the winds at FL430 and I asked the other aircraft and he gave the winds. After a couple minutes; aircraft X requested a climb to FL430 and there was no traffic; so I gave a clearance to climb. Aircraft X was level for several minutes and I had aircraft Y enter my airspace at FL410 eastbound. Aircraft X and aircraft Y were on opposite courses and head on; separated by altitude. When they were about 10 miles apart; aircraft X advised that the temperature was too warm and needed a descent; he also advised that he saw the traffic at FL410. I told the pilot I would get him lower as soon as they passed and I had separation. Shortly after that; aircraft X advised he needed a turn and lower. I issued a 30 degree right turn and told the pilot I would have lower shortly. Aircraft X advised that they could not keep altitude and had started down and needed lower. At this point; the aircraft had passed but I did not have standard separation. I saw in the data block aircraft X showed FL427 and they looked about 3 miles apart and I advised lower would be available shortly. The next radar hit showed the altitude at FL424 and descending. I soon had separation and descended aircraft X to FL400 and they continued the flight. I advised the controller in charge that separation was lost on the 2 aircraft due to warm air at FL430.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ZAB Controller describes climbing an aircraft to its requested altitude; then after 10 minutes the pilot advises the CPC that they need to descend. CPC tells pilot in a few minutes for opposite direction traffic; pilot descends anyway causing a loss of separation.
Narrative: Aircraft X entered my airspace westbound at FL400. The pilot asked for FL430 at some point in my airspace and I told him there was a recent report north of his position of continuous light chop. Aircraft X asked for the winds at FL430 and I asked the other aircraft and he gave the winds. After a couple minutes; Aircraft X requested a climb to FL430 and there was no traffic; so I gave a clearance to climb. Aircraft X was level for several minutes and I had Aircraft Y enter my airspace at FL410 eastbound. Aircraft X and Aircraft Y were on opposite courses and head on; separated by altitude. When they were about 10 miles apart; Aircraft X advised that the temperature was too warm and needed a descent; he also advised that he saw the traffic at FL410. I told the pilot I would get him lower as soon as they passed and I had separation. Shortly after that; Aircraft X advised he needed a turn and lower. I issued a 30 degree right turn and told the pilot I would have lower shortly. Aircraft X advised that they could not keep altitude and had started down and needed lower. At this point; the aircraft had passed but I did not have standard separation. I saw in the data block Aircraft X showed FL427 and they looked about 3 miles apart and I advised lower would be available shortly. The next radar hit showed the altitude at FL424 and descending. I soon had separation and descended Aircraft X to FL400 and they continued the flight. I advised the CIC that separation was lost on the 2 aircraft due to warm air at FL430.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.