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Attributes | |
ACN | 1222644 |
Time | |
Date | 201412 |
Local Time Of Day | 1201-1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | ZID.ARTCC |
State Reference | IN |
Aircraft 1 | |
Make Model Name | Light Transport Low Wing 2 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | Climb |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Make Model Name | Large Transport |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | Cruise |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Function | Enroute |
Qualification | Air Traffic Control Fully Certified |
Experience | Air Traffic Control Time Certified In Pos 1 (yrs) 20 |
Events | |
Anomaly | ATC Issue All Types Conflict Airborne Conflict |
Narrative:
I accepted a handoff on aircraft X climbing to FL400; I had no relevant traffic. Exactly at the same time as the aircraft checked on to my frequency climbing out of 365 to 400; conflict activated with aircraft Y; who was in ZDC airspace approximately 2 o'clock and 3 miles level at FL380. My initial response to aircraft X was 'amend altitude; maintain FL370.' the aircraft was climbing so rapidly that it could not stop in time; and climbed to FL378 with the aircraft Y approximately 2 to 3 nm directly behind. At that point separation had already been lost and the aircraft were at essentially the same altitude with aircraft Y behind aircraft X; so I wasn't sure whether it was better to resume the climb; initiate a descent; or just remain level; so I told the pilot were the traffic was. The pilot then informed me that he had been climbing at a rate of approximately 6500 fpm. Upon reflection; I realized that the previous sector had leveled aircraft X for a couple of minutes for other traffic; and it appears to me that the pilot 'zoom climbed' at more than 6000 fpm when given the clearance to FL400 by ZDC. I don't think that ZDC expected the learjet to climb nearly that rapidly and probably (my professional opinion) did not consider aircraft Y as traffic. Because the learjet 'zoomed' into the climb so quickly; conflict alert processing could not give a timely alert to me or to ZDC until it was far too late. This was a very serious situation that the ATC system; both with regard to controller expectation of pilot actions and with regard to automation features such as conflict alert; were not expecting. If this 'zoom climb' had begun just a couple of miles earlier; it could have resulted in a possible midair collision that perhaps even TCAS would have struggled to prevent. [Does TCAS expect aircraft near FL380 to be climbing at rates in excess of 6000 fpm?] please note: none of the choices presented under the 'causal & contributing' factors seem to exactly fit this situation. While I don't know that the pilot technically did anything wrong; clearly the rate of climb was completely out of conformance with what any controller would reasonably suspect in that situation; and so I checked the 'non-conformance with a clearance: altitude' box because it most closely describes what happened.in my opinion; this event was not a normal loss of separation; but was in fact a potentially deadly occurrence precipitated by a completely unexpected pilot action that the controllers and the automation were not prepared for. While controller training and an automation review (e.g. Conflict alert; TCAS) might be warranted; this event should be brought to the attention of the pilot community through FAA safety briefings and the like; as an example of how such action can threaten safety.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ZID Controller reports of a loss of separation between two aircraft; one level and the other in what he calls a 'Zoom climb' of six thousand five hundred feet per minute.
Narrative: I accepted a handoff on Aircraft X climbing to FL400; I had no relevant traffic. Exactly at the same time as the aircraft checked on to my frequency climbing out of 365 to 400; conflict activated with Aircraft Y; who was in ZDC airspace approximately 2 o'clock and 3 miles level at FL380. My initial response to Aircraft X was 'Amend altitude; maintain FL370.' The aircraft was climbing so rapidly that it could not stop in time; and climbed to FL378 with the Aircraft Y approximately 2 to 3 nm directly behind. At that point separation had already been lost and the aircraft were at essentially the same altitude with Aircraft Y behind Aircraft X; so I wasn't sure whether it was better to resume the climb; initiate a descent; or just remain level; so I told the pilot were the traffic was. The pilot then informed me that he had been climbing at a rate of approximately 6500 fpm. Upon reflection; I realized that the previous sector had leveled Aircraft X for a couple of minutes for other traffic; and it appears to me that the pilot 'Zoom climbed' at more than 6000 fpm when given the clearance to FL400 by ZDC. I don't think that ZDC expected the Learjet to climb nearly that rapidly and probably (my professional opinion) did not consider Aircraft Y as traffic. Because the Learjet 'Zoomed' into the climb so quickly; conflict alert processing could not give a timely alert to me or to ZDC until it was far too late. This was a very serious situation that the ATC system; both with regard to controller expectation of pilot actions and with regard to automation features such as conflict alert; were not expecting. If this 'Zoom climb' had begun just a couple of miles earlier; it could have resulted in a possible midair collision that perhaps even TCAS would have struggled to prevent. [Does TCAS expect aircraft near FL380 to be climbing at rates in excess of 6000 fpm?] Please note: None of the choices presented under the 'causal & contributing' factors seem to exactly fit this situation. While I don't know that the pilot technically did anything wrong; clearly the rate of climb was completely out of conformance with what any controller would reasonably suspect in that situation; and so I checked the 'Non-conformance with a clearance: Altitude' box because it most closely describes what happened.In my opinion; this event was not a normal loss of separation; but was in fact a potentially deadly occurrence precipitated by a completely unexpected pilot action that the controllers and the automation were not prepared for. While controller training and an automation review (e.g. conflict alert; TCAS) might be warranted; this event should be brought to the attention of the pilot community through FAA Safety Briefings and the like; as an example of how such action can threaten safety.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.