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Attributes | |
ACN | 1223347 |
Time | |
Date | 201412 |
Local Time Of Day | 1801-2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | D10.TRACON |
State Reference | TX |
Aircraft 1 | |
Make Model Name | Boeing Company Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Flight Phase | Descent |
Route In Use | STAR BOOVE1 |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Component | |
Aircraft Component | Autoflight System |
Person 1 | |
Function | Pilot Flying First Officer |
Qualification | Flight Crew Air Transport Pilot (ATP) |
Person 2 | |
Function | Pilot Not Flying Captain |
Experience | Flight Crew Total 24991 |
Events | |
Anomaly | Aircraft Equipment Problem Less Severe Deviation - Altitude Excursion From Assigned Altitude Deviation - Procedural Clearance Deviation - Procedural Published Material / Policy |
Narrative:
We were cleared to 'descend via' on the boove one arrival; into dfw. The plane was descending in VNAV on the arrival with 8;000 set in the altitude window for lreee. VNAV worked properly making all the altitude windows and airspeed reductions through mowww during the descent. The autopilot leveled the plane at 11;000 feet and slowed to 220 knots approaching delmo intersection. Approximately 3 miles prior to delmo; the plane began a descent; violating the clearance/crossing altitude. The autopilot was disengaged and we climbed back up to 11;000 feet. The FMC had 11;000 feet and 220 knots displayed as restrictions at delmo. This came up when we selected the approach and was not edited by the flight crew. There seems to be a problem with the FMS database or autopilot interface. Reading F4 messages; it is obvious that there are problems with the arrivals into dfw. While the boove is not listed; others are with the same problem; seemingly always descending improperly from 11;000. The easy solution is to set 11;000 in the altitude window anytime VNAV is used on arrivals into dfw until passing the 11;000 foot waypoint. Then don't use VNAV anymore on the arrival. That message should be sent to all pilots; in a place we are likely to see and read it.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: Air carrier flight crew reports descending below 11000 feet approaching DELMO on the BOOVE1 RNAV arrival to DFW. The aircraft had been descending in LNAV and VNAV with the DELMO restrictions in the FMC. After a 400 foot deviation the flying First Officer returned to 11;000 feet.
Narrative: We were cleared to 'descend via' on the BOOVE one arrival; into DFW. The plane was descending in VNAV on the arrival with 8;000 set in the altitude window for LREEE. VNAV worked properly making all the altitude windows and airspeed reductions through MOWWW during the descent. The autopilot leveled the plane at 11;000 feet and slowed to 220 knots approaching DELMO intersection. Approximately 3 miles prior to DELMO; the plane began a descent; violating the clearance/crossing altitude. The autopilot was disengaged and we climbed back up to 11;000 feet. The FMC had 11;000 feet and 220 knots displayed as restrictions at DELMO. This came up when we selected the approach and was not edited by the flight crew. There seems to be a problem with the FMS database or autopilot interface. Reading F4 messages; it is obvious that there are problems with the arrivals into DFW. While the BOOVE is not listed; others are with the same problem; seemingly always descending improperly from 11;000. The easy solution is to set 11;000 in the altitude window anytime VNAV is used on arrivals into DFW until passing the 11;000 foot waypoint. Then don't use VNAV anymore on the arrival. That message should be sent to all pilots; in a place we are likely to see and read it.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.