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Attributes | |
ACN | 122459 |
Time | |
Date | 198909 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : cgx |
State Reference | IL |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 200 agl bound upper : 500 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : cgx |
Operator | general aviation : corporate |
Make Model Name | Helicopter |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | approach : visual |
Flight Plan | None |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | general aviation : instructional |
Make Model Name | Helicopter |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Flight Plan | None |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 96 flight time total : 3000 flight time type : 600 |
ASRS Report | 122459 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : nmac non adherence : far other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : insufficient time |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 0 vertical : 200 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
I was returning from ord to our company heliport facility, which is located approximately 1.5 NM northwest of meigs airfield. 6 NM northwest of meigs, I requested permission to land at the company facility. I was cleared to enter the air traffic area, and due to our location, tower did not see traffic to be a problem. I was about 1/2 mi northwest of our facility when just below me, at about 200', passed another helicopter. He was in a right turn and we passed within 200-300' of each other. I called the tower and asked about other helicopter. The tower called helicopter, 'state your position.' the pilot stated he was the pilot of the helicopter, and apologized for not informing the tower of his position change. He had told the tower earlier he was going to be doing photo work in another area. I felt it to be virtually impossible to have been able to see the aircraft, which appeared not to have any lights on, at such a low altitude against the bright ground lights of the city. Until now I had no idea how hard it is to see an aircraft below the horizon at night, below 500' against the bright city lights.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: CLOSE PROX 2 GA HELICOPTERS AT LOW ALT NW OF CGX.
Narrative: I WAS RETURNING FROM ORD TO OUR COMPANY HELIPORT FAC, WHICH IS LOCATED APPROX 1.5 NM NW OF MEIGS AIRFIELD. 6 NM NW OF MEIGS, I REQUESTED PERMISSION TO LAND AT THE COMPANY FAC. I WAS CLRED TO ENTER THE ATA, AND DUE TO OUR LOCATION, TWR DID NOT SEE TFC TO BE A PROB. I WAS ABOUT 1/2 MI NW OF OUR FAC WHEN JUST BELOW ME, AT ABOUT 200', PASSED ANOTHER HELI. HE WAS IN A RIGHT TURN AND WE PASSED WITHIN 200-300' OF EACH OTHER. I CALLED THE TWR AND ASKED ABOUT OTHER HELI. THE TWR CALLED HELI, 'STATE YOUR POS.' THE PLT STATED HE WAS THE PLT OF THE HELI, AND APOLOGIZED FOR NOT INFORMING THE TWR OF HIS POS CHANGE. HE HAD TOLD THE TWR EARLIER HE WAS GOING TO BE DOING PHOTO WORK IN ANOTHER AREA. I FELT IT TO BE VIRTUALLY IMPOSSIBLE TO HAVE BEEN ABLE TO SEE THE ACFT, WHICH APPEARED NOT TO HAVE ANY LIGHTS ON, AT SUCH A LOW ALT AGAINST THE BRIGHT GND LIGHTS OF THE CITY. UNTIL NOW I HAD NO IDEA HOW HARD IT IS TO SEE AN ACFT BELOW THE HORIZON AT NIGHT, BELOW 500' AGAINST THE BRIGHT CITY LIGHTS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.