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Attributes | |
ACN | 1226480 |
Time | |
Date | 201412 |
Local Time Of Day | 0001-0600 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | BOI.Airport |
State Reference | ID |
Aircraft 1 | |
Make Model Name | Medium Transport High Wing 2 Turboprop Eng |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | Cruise |
Route In Use | STAR SPUUD1 |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Function | Other / Unknown |
Qualification | Air Traffic Control Fully Certified |
Experience | Air Traffic Control Time Certified In Pos 1 (yrs) 3 |
Events | |
Anomaly | ATC Issue All Types Deviation - Procedural Clearance Deviation - Procedural Published Material / Policy Inflight Event / Encounter Weather / Turbulence |
Narrative:
The boi RNAV stars are not safe. The guidance we have received from our OM is even worse. Aircraft X filed for FL180 as a final altitude. [Name removed] has instructed that we shall not take an aircraft off of the RNAV stars into kboi. The SPUUD1 arrival (which this aircraft was assigned) has a minimum crossing altitude at broph of FL220. Throughout the day; there were reports of continuous moderate turbulence at FL200 and above. Had I been working the aircraft in that sector; instead of 40; I would have been forced; based on direct guidance from an operations manager of ZLC; to climb this aircraft into moderate turbulence conditions.these RNAV stars were not created with the input of the people who actually fly the routes; or the controllers that actually work the position. These RNAV stars; for the safety of the NAS; must be decommissioned as I have suggested on many reports about these procedures. From starting these approaches below the mia; to insufficient clearance with restricted airspace. I don't understand what excuses airspace and procedures could possibly be spinning in order for [reporting body] to not respond to these concerns. I have yet to get two consistent responses in any of my conversations with this person; and I wonder if your dealings are any different. Every time I bring a concern to him; he dances around the issue; changing his responses and standpoint based; not on facts; but whatever he can say to get me out of his office. There is no way for me to hold him responsible for the answers; either lies or exaggerations; or perhaps unknowing inconsistencies; as he is well above reproach from anyone at this center; and is my superior. I just hope you're able to get real answers; and aren't be spun on his web like all of us are on the control room floor. I would be interested to know if there are steps being taken; or if legitimately; my concerns are unfounded and safety is not being compromised. I realize my suggestions are not inherently correct just because I'm the one that filled out the report; but if these procedures have been deemed by the committee; not airspace and procedures; to be safe; then I can stop wasting your time by bringing them up.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ZLC Controller reports that the RNAV STARS into BOISE are not safe. Controller states that from starting these approaches below the MIA; to insufficient clearance with restricted airspace the procedures are unsafe.
Narrative: The BOI RNAV STARS are not safe. The guidance we have received from our OM is even worse. Aircraft X filed for FL180 as a final altitude. [Name removed] has instructed that we shall not take an aircraft off of the RNAV STARS into KBOI. The SPUUD1 arrival (which this aircraft was assigned) has a minimum crossing altitude at BROPH of FL220. Throughout the day; there were reports of continuous moderate turbulence at FL200 and above. Had I been working the aircraft in that sector; instead of 40; I would have been forced; based on direct guidance from an Operations Manager of ZLC; to climb this aircraft into moderate turbulence conditions.These RNAV STARS were not created with the input of the people who actually fly the routes; or the controllers that actually work the position. These RNAV STARS; for the safety of the NAS; must be decommissioned as I have suggested on many reports about these procedures. From starting these approaches below the MIA; to insufficient clearance with restricted airspace. I don't understand what excuses Airspace and Procedures could possibly be spinning in order for [reporting body] to not respond to these concerns. I have yet to get two consistent responses in any of my conversations with this person; and I wonder if your dealings are any different. Every time I bring a concern to him; he dances around the issue; changing his responses and standpoint based; not on facts; but whatever he can say to get me out of his office. There is no way for me to hold him responsible for the answers; either lies or exaggerations; or perhaps unknowing inconsistencies; as he is well above reproach from anyone at this center; and is my superior. I just hope you're able to get real answers; and aren't be spun on his web like all of us are on the control room floor. I would be interested to know if there are steps being taken; or if legitimately; my concerns are unfounded and safety is not being compromised. I realize my suggestions are not inherently correct just because I'm the one that filled out the report; but if these procedures have been deemed by the committee; not Airspace and Procedures; to be safe; then I can stop wasting your time by bringing them up.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.