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Pilot landing in hnl advises approach and tower that they are negative lahso [land and hold short operations]. While rolling out pilot observes lahso lights that are still illuminated on the crossing runway. Tower controller advises pilot this is their procedure. Pilot reports this is conditioning pilots to disregard the lit lahso lights.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 1227167 |
| Time | |
| Date | 201412 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | HNL.Airport |
| State Reference | HI |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Make Model Name | Large Transport |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | Landing |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Function | First Officer Pilot Not Flying |
| Experience | Flight Crew Total 11000 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | ATC Issue All Types Deviation - Procedural Published Material / Policy |
Narrative:
As the pilot monitoring; I told the approach controller twice and tower controller once that we were negative lahso [land and hold short operations]. Upon landing; the lahso lights were still illuminated. We had to roll through the lit lights to reach the taxi way. Both of us were very uncomfortable with this situation. The procedure; according to the tower controller; is to keep the lights illuminated and the controller ensures there is not conflicting traffic. This practice is conditioning pilots to disregard the lit lahso lights which are supposed to indicate a stop line to prevent an accident.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: Pilot landing in HNL advises Approach and Tower that they are negative LAHSO [Land and Hold Short Operations]. While rolling out pilot observes LAHSO lights that are still illuminated on the crossing runway. Tower Controller advises pilot this is their procedure. Pilot reports this is conditioning pilots to disregard the lit LAHSO lights.
Narrative: As the pilot monitoring; I told the approach controller twice and tower controller once that we were negative LAHSO [Land and Hold Short Operations]. Upon landing; the LAHSO lights were still illuminated. We had to roll through the lit lights to reach the taxi way. Both of us were very uncomfortable with this situation. The procedure; according to the tower controller; is to keep the lights illuminated and the controller ensures there is not conflicting traffic. This practice is conditioning pilots to disregard the lit LAHSO lights which are supposed to indicate a stop line to prevent an accident.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.