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Attributes | |
ACN | 122873 |
Time | |
Date | 198909 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : roc |
State Reference | NY |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 600 msl bound upper : 600 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : roc tower : cle |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | landing other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | approach : visual |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | controller : approach |
Qualification | controller : radar |
Experience | controller non radar : 6 controller radar : 3 |
ASRS Report | 122873 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | other |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
Air carrier X on visibility approach to runway 22. Air carrier Y was second to land opp direction on a visibility approach to runway 04. When air carrier X was over the runway 22 landing threshold, air carrier Y was on a 6 mi final with traffic opp direction in sight. The captain of air carrier X called me later to complain that it was an unsafe situation. He said that if he had to go around, he would have had to make an abnormal procedure and a severe and immediate turn to avoid traffic. He felt the operation at night should not be done. I tried to explain that air carrier Y had him in sight, and was in a position to maneuver if needed, both aircraft were in radio contact with the tower (local controller) in sufficient time to avoid any possible problems. The air carrier X captain did not agree and interpreted my explanation as a careless attitude. Everything does look closer at night. There really is no way to avoid the questions other than not to allow opp direction approachs simultaneously.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: PLT COMPLAINS ABOUT TRAFFIC LNDG OPPOSITE DIRECTION.
Narrative: ACR X ON VIS APCH TO RWY 22. ACR Y WAS SECOND TO LAND OPP DIRECTION ON A VIS APCH TO RWY 04. WHEN ACR X WAS OVER THE RWY 22 LNDG THRESHOLD, ACR Y WAS ON A 6 MI FINAL WITH TFC OPP DIRECTION IN SIGHT. THE CAPT OF ACR X CALLED ME LATER TO COMPLAIN THAT IT WAS AN UNSAFE SITUATION. HE SAID THAT IF HE HAD TO GO AROUND, HE WOULD HAVE HAD TO MAKE AN ABNORMAL PROC AND A SEVERE AND IMMEDIATE TURN TO AVOID TFC. HE FELT THE OPERATION AT NIGHT SHOULD NOT BE DONE. I TRIED TO EXPLAIN THAT ACR Y HAD HIM IN SIGHT, AND WAS IN A POS TO MANEUVER IF NEEDED, BOTH ACFT WERE IN RADIO CONTACT WITH THE TWR (LCL CTLR) IN SUFFICIENT TIME TO AVOID ANY POSSIBLE PROBS. THE ACR X CAPT DID NOT AGREE AND INTERPRETED MY EXPLANATION AS A CARELESS ATTITUDE. EVERYTHING DOES LOOK CLOSER AT NIGHT. THERE REALLY IS NO WAY TO AVOID THE QUESTIONS OTHER THAN NOT TO ALLOW OPP DIRECTION APCHS SIMULTANEOUSLY.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.