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Attributes | |
ACN | 1231186 |
Time | |
Date | 201501 |
Local Time Of Day | 1201-1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | ZZZ.Airport |
State Reference | US |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Make Model Name | B737-800 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | Parked |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Function | First Officer |
Experience | Flight Crew Last 90 Days 172 Flight Crew Type 2500 |
Person 2 | |
Function | Captain |
Qualification | Flight Crew Air Transport Pilot (ATP) |
Events | |
Anomaly | Deviation - Procedural Published Material / Policy Inflight Event / Encounter Weather / Turbulence |
Narrative:
We deadheaded to start our trip. We arrived late. When I arrived at the aircraft we were taking we were about 15 minutes from scheduled push. The agent let me down the jetway and asked if I would let the flight attendants know that the passengers would be coming down. I said that would be fine. He also notified me that the paperwork was in the aircraft. When I arrived at the aircraft; the flight attendants were all on board but the aircraft was cold and dark and not plugged in or hooked up to the air. I said hello to the flight attendants and began my checks so that I could start the APU. As I was doing this; the passengers began boarding. I didn't notice that the passengers were boarding until after I had gotten the APU started. The aircraft was an -800 and we were [going to have a light passenger load]. I knew the passengers would not take long to board; so I wasted no time completing my preflight and walk around. After my walk around; the captain and I discussed the plan for deicing as it was snowing. The captain and I went over the flight plan and the mels that were on the aircraft. I wasn't thinking about the weather [at our destination] because we had just come from the west and I thought the weather to be a nonissue. I also assumed the captain had looked at it and everything was fine. We noticed that we didn't have a weather packet during the climb out. We proceeded to use the ACARS to get the appropriate weather and NOTAMS for our flight.[we must] include a weather packet with every release even if that means printing an updated weather packet closer to departure. [We should] allow aircraft to be left powered up without pilots onboard. I shouldn't have assumed that the flight attendants and aircraft were ready to board without going down to the aircraft first.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: After deadheading in; running late for departure; heavy snow; finding a cold unpowered airplane already being boarded by passengers and dealing with a harried; uncooperative gate agent all combined for a rushed and incomplete preflight environment during which the flight crew failed to note there was no weather packet contained in the flight papers until after takeoff.
Narrative: We deadheaded to start our trip. We arrived late. When I arrived at the aircraft we were taking we were about 15 minutes from scheduled push. The Agent let me down the jetway and asked if I would let the Flight Attendants know that the Passengers would be coming down. I said that would be fine. He also notified me that the paperwork was in the aircraft. When I arrived at the aircraft; the Flight Attendants were all on board but the aircraft was cold and dark and not plugged in or hooked up to the air. I said hello to the Flight Attendants and began my checks so that I could start the APU. As I was doing this; the Passengers began boarding. I didn't notice that the Passengers were boarding until after I had gotten the APU started. The aircraft was an -800 and we were [going to have a light passenger load]. I knew the Passengers would not take long to board; so I wasted no time completing my preflight and walk around. After my walk around; the Captain and I discussed the plan for deicing as it was snowing. The Captain and I went over the flight plan and the MELs that were on the aircraft. I wasn't thinking about the weather [at our destination] because we had just come from the west and I thought the weather to be a nonissue. I also assumed the Captain had looked at it and everything was fine. We noticed that we didn't have a weather packet during the climb out. We proceeded to use the ACARS to get the appropriate weather and NOTAMS for our flight.[We must] include a weather packet with every Release even if that means printing an updated weather packet closer to departure. [We should] allow aircraft to be left powered up without Pilots onboard. I shouldn't have assumed that the Flight Attendants and aircraft were ready to board without going down to the aircraft first.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.