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Although they were originally cleared 'as filed' and; thus; via the brdje RNAV STAR to dfw the flight crew of an A320 was cleared '...direct to seevr; descend via' the seevr arrival. Aware that seevr was a fix on their filed route and on the brdje STAR they mistakenly assumed the FMGC was properly programmed and planned to cross seevr between FL230 and FL200. As they approached seevr ATC advised they looked to be too high and; only then; did they realize that--although sub-titled (seevr.BRDJE1)--their latest clearance was for the seevr RNAV STAR--sub-titled (seevr.SEEVR1)--and they were to cross seevr between 16000 ft and 13000 ft.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 1235981 |
| Time | |
| Date | 201501 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | D10.TRACON |
| State Reference | TX |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Make Model Name | A320 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | Descent |
| Route In Use | STAR SEEVR |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Component | |
| Aircraft Component | FMS/FMC |
| Person 1 | |
| Function | Captain Pilot Flying |
| Qualification | Flight Crew Air Transport Pilot (ATP) |
| Experience | Flight Crew Last 90 Days 45 Flight Crew Total 12500 Flight Crew Type 90 |
| Person 2 | |
| Function | First Officer Pilot Not Flying |
| Experience | Flight Crew Last 90 Days 180 Flight Crew Total 8500 Flight Crew Type 4500 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | ATC Issue All Types Aircraft Equipment Problem Less Severe Deviation - Altitude Crossing Restriction Not Met Deviation - Procedural Clearance Deviation - Procedural Published Material / Policy Flight Deck / Cabin / Aircraft Event Other / Unknown |
Narrative:
We were filed into dfw via the BRDJE1 RNAV arrival. Approaching seevr with the BRDJE1 arrival in the FMGC; fort worth approach told us were cleared to seevr; descend via the seevr arrival. We checked the STAR; and were somewhat confused over the clearance; because the title page of 60-2B looks like this:brdje one RNAV arrival (seevr.BRDJE1) note how it says (seevr) in parentheses. We thought we had understood the clearance; and were descending to cross seevr at FL200-230 as published. What the controller meant was for us to go to seevr; and join the seevr one RNAV arrival [jeppesen title page 60-2Q]. The controller told us we were looking high at seevr. That got our attention; and we finally figured out that we were heading to the same fix [seevr]; but cleared for a different arrival; with a different crossing restriction [of between] 13000-16000. Seeing that we would be high at seevr; the controller gave us a 270 heading and a clearance to descend to 6000; then cleared us direct to inwod; which is a fix on the approach to runway 17L.the annotation on page 60-2B certainly confused us. Getting a clearance for a different [STAR] close into a duplicate arrival fix certainly confused and time-compressed us as well. We should have been more proactive in resolving the ambiguity.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: Although they were originally cleared 'as filed' and; thus; via the BRDJE RNAV STAR to DFW the flight crew of an A320 was cleared '...direct to SEEVR; descend via' the SEEVR arrival. Aware that SEEVR was a fix on their filed route AND on the BRDJE STAR they mistakenly assumed the FMGC was properly programmed and planned to cross SEEVR between FL230 and FL200. As they approached SEEVR ATC advised they looked to be too high and; only then; did they realize that--although sub-titled (SEEVR.BRDJE1)--their latest clearance was for the SEEVR RNAV STAR--sub-titled (SEEVR.SEEVR1)--and they were to cross SEEVR between 16000 FT and 13000 FT.
Narrative: We were filed into DFW via the BRDJE1 RNAV arrival. Approaching SEEVR with the BRDJE1 arrival in the FMGC; Fort Worth Approach told us were cleared to SEEVR; descend via the SEEVR arrival. We checked the STAR; and were somewhat confused over the clearance; because the title page of 60-2B looks like this:BRDJE ONE RNAV ARRIVAL (SEEVR.BRDJE1) Note how it says (SEEVR) in parentheses. We thought we had understood the clearance; and were descending to cross SEEVR at FL200-230 as published. What the controller meant was for us to go to SEEVR; and join the SEEVR ONE RNAV ARRIVAL [Jeppesen title page 60-2Q]. The controller told us we were looking high at SEEVR. That got our attention; and we finally figured out that we were heading to the same fix [SEEVR]; but cleared for a different arrival; with a different crossing restriction [of between] 13000-16000. Seeing that we would be high at SEEVR; the controller gave us a 270 heading and a clearance to descend to 6000; then cleared us direct to INWOD; which is a fix on the approach to runway 17L.The annotation on page 60-2B certainly confused us. Getting a clearance for a different [STAR] close into a duplicate arrival fix certainly confused and time-compressed us as well. We should have been more proactive in resolving the ambiguity.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.