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Attributes | |
ACN | 123726 |
Time | |
Date | 198909 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 0001 To 0600 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : stl airport : sus |
State Reference | MO |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 2000 msl bound upper : 7500 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Dawn |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : stl tower : sus |
Operator | common carrier : air taxi |
Make Model Name | Small Transport, Low Wing, 2 Recip Eng |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude cruise other |
Route In Use | departure other |
Flight Plan | None |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument pilot : cfi |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 600 flight time total : 4000 flight time type : 900 |
ASRS Report | 123726 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | controller : local |
Qualification | controller : non radar |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : far non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
I called ground at sus. I told them I was departing VFR at 7500' to grr. He asked, 'will you be departing north?' I answered 'no, 040.' he told me to 'taxi to runway 8R; departure will be on 126.7.' I thought they were coordinating with departure, and if they weren't, they could have told me that I would enter the TCA on that heading and altitude. I told the tower I was ready for departure. She said, 'cleared to depart, cleared on course.' about 5 mi out, I asked if should be talking to departure. She said, 'yes.' I contacted departure and as soon as I talked to them, I could tell they weren't expecting me. I asked, 'what would you like me to do?' I got no response. I asked again. They gave me a squawk and the 7500'. I believe that there was a breakdown in communication here. I thought that I was cleared through the TCA on course, climbing to 7500'. Apparently, in retrospect, that wasn't the case from stl departure's point of view.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: TCA INTRUSION BY SMT FREIGHT ACFT.
Narrative: I CALLED GND AT SUS. I TOLD THEM I WAS DEPARTING VFR AT 7500' TO GRR. HE ASKED, 'WILL YOU BE DEPARTING N?' I ANSWERED 'NO, 040.' HE TOLD ME TO 'TAXI TO RWY 8R; DEP WILL BE ON 126.7.' I THOUGHT THEY WERE COORDINATING WITH DEP, AND IF THEY WEREN'T, THEY COULD HAVE TOLD ME THAT I WOULD ENTER THE TCA ON THAT HDG AND ALT. I TOLD THE TWR I WAS READY FOR DEP. SHE SAID, 'CLRED TO DEPART, CLRED ON COURSE.' ABOUT 5 MI OUT, I ASKED IF SHOULD BE TALKING TO DEP. SHE SAID, 'YES.' I CONTACTED DEP AND AS SOON AS I TALKED TO THEM, I COULD TELL THEY WEREN'T EXPECTING ME. I ASKED, 'WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO DO?' I GOT NO RESPONSE. I ASKED AGAIN. THEY GAVE ME A SQUAWK AND THE 7500'. I BELIEVE THAT THERE WAS A BREAKDOWN IN COM HERE. I THOUGHT THAT I WAS CLRED THROUGH THE TCA ON COURSE, CLBING TO 7500'. APPARENTLY, IN RETROSPECT, THAT WASN'T THE CASE FROM STL DEP'S POINT OF VIEW.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.