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Attributes | |
ACN | 124708 |
Time | |
Date | 198910 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : mty |
State Reference | FO |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Large Transport, Low Wing, 3 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | climbout : takeoff cruise other landing other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : flight engineer pilot : cfi pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 11000 flight time type : 1000 |
ASRS Report | 124708 |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence other other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | other other |
Narrative:
This is a general report regarding what I believe are deficiencies in the far 121 rest requirements. I am a captain for airlines, and I am enclosing a copy of a 3-DAY 'trip pairing' I just completed. The 1ST duty period has 8+59 hours of scheduled flight time, followed by 10+01 hours of rest, followed by 1+22 hours of flight time which is within 24 hours of the beginning of the pairing. So we were scheduled for 8+59 between rest periods and 10+21 in a 24 hour period. This would be illegal for domestic flying, but since our layover was in monterey, mexico, the rules that apply are for a 3-MAN international crew. I can understand the need for longer duty periods for crews that fly over thousands of miles of open water, but monterey is only 1 1/2 hours south of houston. I think flts to canada and mexico should have the same rest requirements as domestic flying.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: REPORTER PROTESTS SCHEDULING OF FLT TIME AND REST TIME.
Narrative: THIS IS A GENERAL REPORT REGARDING WHAT I BELIEVE ARE DEFICIENCIES IN THE FAR 121 REST REQUIREMENTS. I AM A CAPT FOR AIRLINES, AND I AM ENCLOSING A COPY OF A 3-DAY 'TRIP PAIRING' I JUST COMPLETED. THE 1ST DUTY PERIOD HAS 8+59 HRS OF SCHEDULED FLT TIME, FOLLOWED BY 10+01 HRS OF REST, FOLLOWED BY 1+22 HRS OF FLT TIME WHICH IS WITHIN 24 HRS OF THE BEGINNING OF THE PAIRING. SO WE WERE SCHEDULED FOR 8+59 BETWEEN REST PERIODS AND 10+21 IN A 24 HR PERIOD. THIS WOULD BE ILLEGAL FOR DOMESTIC FLYING, BUT SINCE OUR LAYOVER WAS IN MONTEREY, MEXICO, THE RULES THAT APPLY ARE FOR A 3-MAN INTERNATIONAL CREW. I CAN UNDERSTAND THE NEED FOR LONGER DUTY PERIODS FOR CREWS THAT FLY OVER THOUSANDS OF MILES OF OPEN WATER, BUT MONTEREY IS ONLY 1 1/2 HRS S OF HOUSTON. I THINK FLTS TO CANADA AND MEXICO SHOULD HAVE THE SAME REST REQUIREMENTS AS DOMESTIC FLYING.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.