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Attributes | |
ACN | 124713 |
Time | |
Date | 198910 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : mke |
State Reference | WI |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 4000 msl bound upper : 4200 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : mke tower : mke |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | climbout : initial |
Route In Use | departure other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | climbout : initial |
Route In Use | departure other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | controller : departure |
Qualification | controller : radar |
Experience | controller radar : 6 |
ASRS Report | 124713 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | controller : local |
Qualification | controller : non radar |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : published procedure non adherence : required legal separation |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 9000 vertical : 200 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Operational Error |
Narrative:
Use of departure sep of the 2 jets did not provide airborne standard sep because of the second jet's higher performance. Due to runway confign and noise abatement procedures, I waited approximately 5 mi to turn second jet to 140 degree heading. Both jets departed 170 degrees with first jet climbing to 5000', second jet to 4000'. I needed to get the first jet over the top and over traffic to avoid adjacent airspace and a time consuming point-out. I turned the first jet to 100 degrees. I then noticed the second jet flying considerably faster. I turned the second jet to 110 degrees, then stopped the first jet at 140 degrees and climbed expeditiously to 6000'. The first jet was always higher than the second jet, and the second jet was still mins from actually catching the first jet, but I assumed the first jet would have out-climbed and kept distance because of like aircraft. I learned a valuable lesson: 'never assume anything.' this was a chasing situation that allowed for approximately 1 1/2 mi horizontal sep and 200' vertical.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A SECOND DEP ACFT OVERTAKES THE FIRST ACFT, RESULTING IN LESS THAN STANDARD SEPARATION.
Narrative: USE OF DEP SEP OF THE 2 JETS DID NOT PROVIDE AIRBORNE STANDARD SEP BECAUSE OF THE SECOND JET'S HIGHER PERFORMANCE. DUE TO RWY CONFIGN AND NOISE ABATEMENT PROCS, I WAITED APPROX 5 MI TO TURN SECOND JET TO 140 DEG HDG. BOTH JETS DEPARTED 170 DEGS WITH FIRST JET CLBING TO 5000', SECOND JET TO 4000'. I NEEDED TO GET THE FIRST JET OVER THE TOP AND OVER TFC TO AVOID ADJACENT AIRSPACE AND A TIME CONSUMING POINT-OUT. I TURNED THE FIRST JET TO 100 DEGS. I THEN NOTICED THE SECOND JET FLYING CONSIDERABLY FASTER. I TURNED THE SECOND JET TO 110 DEGS, THEN STOPPED THE FIRST JET AT 140 DEGS AND CLBED EXPEDITIOUSLY TO 6000'. THE FIRST JET WAS ALWAYS HIGHER THAN THE SECOND JET, AND THE SECOND JET WAS STILL MINS FROM ACTUALLY CATCHING THE FIRST JET, BUT I ASSUMED THE FIRST JET WOULD HAVE OUT-CLBED AND KEPT DISTANCE BECAUSE OF LIKE ACFT. I LEARNED A VALUABLE LESSON: 'NEVER ASSUME ANYTHING.' THIS WAS A CHASING SITUATION THAT ALLOWED FOR APPROX 1 1/2 MI HORIZ SEP AND 200' VERT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.