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Attributes | |
ACN | 1254723 |
Time | |
Date | 201504 |
Local Time Of Day | 1801-2400 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Aircraft 1 | |
Make Model Name | B737-800 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | Cruise |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Component | |
Aircraft Component | Elevator Control Column |
Person 1 | |
Function | Captain Pilot Flying |
Qualification | Flight Crew Air Transport Pilot (ATP) |
Experience | Flight Crew Total 18000 |
Person 2 | |
Function | First Officer Pilot Flying |
Qualification | Flight Crew Air Transport Pilot (ATP) |
Events | |
Anomaly | Aircraft Equipment Problem Critical |
Narrative:
Flight was normal until approximately 60 miles before top of descent. While trying to write down a position report I noticed the control column freely moved fore and aft. Range of travel was approximately 8 inches. It felt like it wasn't attached to anything. We had both heard of similar events. My first officer's input was that they talked about this in training and boeing said not to disconnect the autopilot in this situation. My recollection of a similar event years ago on a B767. In that event freezing precipitation was the issue. The autopilot was flying the airplane normally. We talked about our options and decided it was best to leave the autopilot on and descend to a lower altitude using very deliberate and slow inputs so as to not disturb autopilot operation. Our hope was that the condition would improve as we descended. We consulted the QRH but there was no procedure commensurate with our problem. Contacted ATC then I called dispatch; and told them we needed an immediate patch to maintenance. After some initial communication problems with them; maintenance informed me that he had never heard of a problem like this. Therefore with no guidance we kept working the problem by descending slowly and leaving the autopilot on. I called the flight attendants and told them about our issue; asked them to do their 30 second review; and gave them the test items. We told ATC that we need time to get down and continue working the problem. We asked for the ILS. The situation was slowly improving as we descended. Going through FL300 not much. But in the mid 20s some improvement; but still not normal. We overflew the final course on a southerly heading and later asked for a turn out to the west and and a minimum 20 mile final. When descending through 11;000 and trying to turn westerly we dropped into cws and we could not recover any flight director modes. Heading select wouldn't work; resetting the flight directors didn't help. I elected to take it out of cws as I could feel elevator authority now. Elevator still felt soft. We turned a long final and slowly; very deliberately; configured the aircraft. As we got closer I had confidence that the elevator was going to work fine. I elected to land flaps 30 and we landed with a soft touchdown and no further issues. My first officer and cabin crew did a fantastic job and were true professionals; calm and collected in the face of adversity.it is my understanding this is the second such event. I would hope that boeing comes up with an explanation and a procedure to fix or avoid it; and a checklist to deal with it.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: B737-800 flight crew report discovering in cruise that their control column can be moved freely about eight inches fore and aft; without disturbing the autopilot or producing elevator movement. The flight continued to destination with the autopilot engaged. During a turn at 11;000 feet the autopilot becomes disengaged and cannot be reengaged. Although the elevator felt soft the Captain is able to manually land the aircraft.
Narrative: Flight was normal until approximately 60 miles before top of descent. While trying to write down a position report I noticed the control column freely moved fore and aft. Range of travel was approximately 8 inches. It felt like it wasn't attached to anything. We had both heard of similar events. My First Officer's input was that they talked about this in training and Boeing said not to disconnect the autopilot in this situation. My recollection of a similar event years ago on a B767. In that event freezing precipitation was the issue. The autopilot was flying the airplane normally. We talked about our options and decided it was best to leave the autopilot on and descend to a lower altitude using very deliberate and slow inputs so as to not disturb autopilot operation. Our hope was that the condition would improve as we descended. We consulted the QRH but there was no procedure commensurate with our problem. Contacted ATC then I called dispatch; and told them we needed an immediate patch to Maintenance. After some initial communication problems with them; Maintenance informed me that he had never heard of a problem like this. Therefore with no guidance we kept working the problem by descending slowly and leaving the autopilot on. I called the flight Attendants and told them about our issue; asked them to do their 30 second review; and gave them the TEST items. We told ATC that we need time to get down and continue working the problem. We asked for the ILS. The situation was slowly improving as we descended. Going through FL300 not much. But in the mid 20s some improvement; but still not normal. We overflew the final course on a southerly heading and later asked for a turn out to the west and and a minimum 20 mile final. When descending through 11;000 and trying to turn westerly we dropped into CWS and we could not recover any flight director modes. Heading select wouldn't work; resetting the flight directors didn't help. I elected to take it out of CWS as I could feel elevator authority now. Elevator still felt soft. We turned a long final and slowly; very deliberately; configured the aircraft. As we got closer I had confidence that the elevator was going to work fine. I elected to land flaps 30 and we landed with a soft touchdown and no further issues. My First Officer and cabin crew did a fantastic job and were true professionals; calm and collected in the face of adversity.It is my understanding this is the second such event. I would hope that Boeing comes up with an explanation and a procedure to fix or avoid it; and a checklist to deal with it.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.