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Pilot reports of flying VFR to whp under flight following with sct. Sct controller advises pilot that controller will help him all the way to whp; then vectors the aircraft around vny due to traffic. Pilot continues descent and then controller advises pilot that aircraft entered the vny class D airspace. Pilot was under the assumption that he had approval to descend into class D as long as he told ATC about it and aatc would take care of the point out to vny tower.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 1266802 |
| Time | |
| Date | 201505 |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201-1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | VNY.Airport |
| State Reference | CA |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Make Model Name | Small Aircraft Low Wing 1 Eng Retractable Gear |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Flight Phase | Descent |
| Route In Use | Vectors |
| Flight Plan | None |
| Person 1 | |
| Function | Single Pilot |
| Qualification | Flight Crew Private |
| Experience | Flight Crew Last 90 Days 50 Flight Crew Total 400 Flight Crew Type 400 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | ATC Issue All Types Airspace Violation All Types Deviation - Procedural Clearance |
Narrative:
I frequently use the coastal route to transition lax bravo headed north from avalon (avx) to whiteman (whp). Typically; ATC handles the vny transition just before whp. On one recent occasion; I asked if I needed clearance through the vny class delta; and the controller said no; that he could get me into whiteman.today; however; the controller vectored me out away from vny due to traffic. I continued to descend; as I always do. Several minutes later; the controller (still on 134.2) said that I had entered or was about to vny class D airspace. I told him I thought he had cleared me and was vectoring me. He released me and told me to contact van nuys tower to transition. I did so and was granted a transition.it is possible I entered the class D airspace while still with so. Cal; prior to talking with van nuys. Though I was always talking to someone; it is possible I was in van nuys airspace prior to two way contact.this was a lesson learned for me; that just because I'm with flight following being vectored; I still must get clearance on the way down or stay above airport airspace. This was not my understanding previously.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: Pilot reports of flying VFR to WHP under flight following with SCT. SCT Controller advises pilot that Controller will help him all the way to WHP; then vectors the aircraft around VNY due to traffic. Pilot continues descent and then Controller advises pilot that aircraft entered the VNY class D airspace. Pilot was under the assumption that he had approval to descend into Class D as long as he told ATC about it and AATC would take care of the point out to VNY Tower.
Narrative: I frequently use the Coastal Route to transition LAX Bravo headed North from Avalon (AVX) to Whiteman (WHP). Typically; ATC handles the VNY transition just before WHP. On one recent occasion; I asked if I needed clearance through the VNY Class Delta; and the controller said no; that he could get me into Whiteman.Today; however; the controller vectored me out away from VNY due to traffic. I continued to descend; as I always do. Several minutes later; the controller (still on 134.2) said that I had entered or was about to VNY Class D airspace. I told him I thought he had cleared me and was vectoring me. He released me and told me to contact Van Nuys tower to transition. I did so and was granted a transition.It is possible I entered the Class D airspace while still with So. Cal; prior to talking with Van Nuys. Though I was always talking to someone; it is possible I was in Van Nuys airspace prior to two way contact.This was a lesson learned for me; that just because I'm with flight following being vectored; I still must get clearance on the way down or stay above airport airspace. This was not my understanding previously.
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