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Air carrier medium large transport flight crew suspects they might have missed a crossing restriction on warrd 2 STAR into ewr.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 127257 |
| Time | |
| Date | 198911 |
| Day | Fri |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : rbv |
| State Reference | NJ |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 9000 msl bound upper : 11000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | artcc : zny |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
| Flight Phase | cruise other descent other |
| Route In Use | arrival star : star |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 180 flight time total : 6000 |
| ASRS Report | 127257 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 120 flight time total : 6000 |
| ASRS Report | 127269 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | altitude deviation : overshoot altitude deviation : crossing restriction not met |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
On warrd 2 arrival into ewr, ZNY/TRACON told us to cross holey intersection at 9000 ft, cross robbinsville at 8000 ft. We set 8000 ft into altitude alerter, then crossed holey at 9000 ft and robbinsville at 8000 ft. After passing robbinsville and changing controllers, however, we noticed the arrival route (warrd 2) had a crossing restriction of 11000 ft at holey. We were now unsure if the controller made an error, or if we did, or if there was no error at all. ATC should not issue more than 1 crossing restriction at 1 time. We have only 1 altitude alerter and the distrs in the northeast corridor can easily cause a flight crew to forget/transpose numerous crossing restrictions.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACR MLG FLT CREW SUSPECTS THEY MIGHT HAVE MISSED A CROSSING RESTRICTION ON WARRD 2 STAR INTO EWR.
Narrative: ON WARRD 2 ARR INTO EWR, ZNY/TRACON TOLD US TO CROSS HOLEY INTXN AT 9000 FT, CROSS ROBBINSVILLE AT 8000 FT. WE SET 8000 FT INTO ALT ALERTER, THEN CROSSED HOLEY AT 9000 FT AND ROBBINSVILLE AT 8000 FT. AFTER PASSING ROBBINSVILLE AND CHANGING CTLRS, HOWEVER, WE NOTICED THE ARR ROUTE (WARRD 2) HAD A XING RESTRICTION OF 11000 FT AT HOLEY. WE WERE NOW UNSURE IF THE CTLR MADE AN ERROR, OR IF WE DID, OR IF THERE WAS NO ERROR AT ALL. ATC SHOULD NOT ISSUE MORE THAN 1 XING RESTRICTION AT 1 TIME. WE HAVE ONLY 1 ALT ALERTER AND THE DISTRS IN THE NE CORRIDOR CAN EASILY CAUSE A FLC TO FORGET/TRANSPOSE NUMEROUS XING RESTRICTIONS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.