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Attributes | |
ACN | 127259 |
Time | |
Date | 198911 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : ind |
State Reference | IN |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 33000 msl bound upper : 33500 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zid tracon : sea |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | cruise other descent other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : flight engineer pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 190 flight time total : 4730 flight time type : 1470 |
ASRS Report | 127259 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : undershoot altitude deviation : excursion from assigned altitude altitude deviation : overshoot non adherence : clearance |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : unspecified |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
There were 2 altitude deviation on this descent. The first was when I was cleared from FL370 to FL330. After leveling off at FL330 I was making a small adjustment to the altitude with the autoplt before engaging the altitude hold switch. I was distracted by some activity or radio call (I don't exactly recall) and the aircraft climbed about 400-500' before I noticed that I hadn't engaged the altitude hold switch. The second deviation occurred in exactly the same manner at my 10000' level off--the only difference was that the deviation was 400-500' down. The second distraction I believe was cockpit conversation. In both cases I quickly recovered to the proper altitude. After thinking about this a couple of days, my only theory on my difficulty with altitudes is that my first real turbo jet flying experience as first officer was on the widebody transport a and widebody transport B. Both have advanced autoplts with automatic altitude capture. I'm afraid that I had it done for me for so long that even after 2 1/2 yrs on the less advanced large transport, I sometimes find it difficult to concentrate on altitudes. The altitude alert instrument has been a great help but is not to be totally relied upon. The one thing I can think of is to brief my fellow crew members to keep a close watch on altitudes and to always try to be aware that I do have this difficulty.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACR LGT ALT DEVIATION OVERSHOT DURING DESCENT.
Narrative: THERE WERE 2 ALT DEVIATION ON THIS DSCNT. THE FIRST WAS WHEN I WAS CLRED FROM FL370 TO FL330. AFTER LEVELING OFF AT FL330 I WAS MAKING A SMALL ADJUSTMENT TO THE ALT WITH THE AUTOPLT BEFORE ENGAGING THE ALT HOLD SWITCH. I WAS DISTRACTED BY SOME ACTIVITY OR RADIO CALL (I DON'T EXACTLY RECALL) AND THE ACFT CLBED ABOUT 400-500' BEFORE I NOTICED THAT I HADN'T ENGAGED THE ALT HOLD SWITCH. THE SECOND DEVIATION OCCURRED IN EXACTLY THE SAME MANNER AT MY 10000' LEVEL OFF--THE ONLY DIFFERENCE WAS THAT THE DEVIATION WAS 400-500' DOWN. THE SECOND DISTR I BELIEVE WAS COCKPIT CONVERSATION. IN BOTH CASES I QUICKLY RECOVERED TO THE PROPER ALT. AFTER THINKING ABOUT THIS A COUPLE OF DAYS, MY ONLY THEORY ON MY DIFFICULTY WITH ALTS IS THAT MY FIRST REAL TURBO JET FLYING EXPERIENCE AS F/O WAS ON THE WDB A AND WDB B. BOTH HAVE ADVANCED AUTOPLTS WITH AUTOMATIC ALT CAPTURE. I'M AFRAID THAT I HAD IT DONE FOR ME FOR SO LONG THAT EVEN AFTER 2 1/2 YRS ON THE LESS ADVANCED LGT, I SOMETIMES FIND IT DIFFICULT TO CONCENTRATE ON ALTS. THE ALT ALERT INSTRUMENT HAS BEEN A GREAT HELP BUT IS NOT TO BE TOTALLY RELIED UPON. THE ONE THING I CAN THINK OF IS TO BRIEF MY FELLOW CREW MEMBERS TO KEEP A CLOSE WATCH ON ALTS AND TO ALWAYS TRY TO BE AWARE THAT I DO HAVE THIS DIFFICULTY.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.