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F-33A student pilot reported an airborne conflict with another aircraft in the pattern at P08.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 1280396 |
| Time | |
| Date | 201507 |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601-1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | P08.Airport |
| State Reference | AZ |
| Environment | |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Make Model Name | Bonanza 33 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Flight Phase | Initial Approach |
| Person 1 | |
| Function | Pilot Flying Trainee |
| Qualification | Flight Crew Student |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | Conflict Airborne Conflict Deviation - Procedural Published Material / Policy |
Narrative:
First; when entering on the 45 for the left downwind runway 05 at coolidge another cessna came close to our right side with the same intention of entering the pattern. Prior to that we already made our calls; and the cessna claimed it would be no factor since he was behind us. Unfortunately this was not the case. The cessna called he was going to initiate a 360 for spacing to the left; this was not the safe direction to do that; and while saying 'left' he turned right. Since then; I kept an extra eye on the cessna since he did the opposite of what he was saying on the frequency. Second; when the student flying turned final and made his call; the cessna turned an early base and was on collision course with us again by cutting us off by turning a short final at a lower speed. I called out that the cessna initiated this maneuver and soon the student flying and the instructor had him in sight and initiated a go around. Third; after completing the go around we turned left crosswind in order to give it another try. The cessna did not respond to our go around call and kept continuing his patterns without taking other aircraft into account. Soon after we turned crosswind; the cessna cut us off again by turning an early crosswind instead of following us in the pattern. From this moment we angled out and flew a wide downwind in order to leave the pattern since it was not working out with this other airplane in the pattern. The student flying made all calls properly.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: F-33A student pilot reported an airborne conflict with another aircraft in the pattern at P08.
Narrative: First; when entering on the 45 for the left downwind runway 05 at Coolidge another Cessna came close to our right side with the same intention of entering the pattern. Prior to that we already made our calls; and the Cessna claimed it would be no factor since he was behind us. Unfortunately this was not the case. The Cessna called he was going to initiate a 360 for spacing to the left; this was not the safe direction to do that; and while saying 'left' he turned right. Since then; I kept an extra eye on the Cessna since he did the opposite of what he was saying on the frequency. Second; when the student flying turned final and made his call; the Cessna turned an early base and was on collision course with us again by cutting us off by turning a short final at a lower speed. I called out that the Cessna initiated this maneuver and soon the student flying and the instructor had him in sight and initiated a go around. Third; after completing the go around we turned left crosswind in order to give it another try. The Cessna did not respond to our go around call and kept continuing his patterns without taking other aircraft into account. Soon after we turned crosswind; the Cessna cut us off again by turning an early crosswind instead of following us in the pattern. From this moment we angled out and flew a wide downwind in order to leave the pattern since it was not working out with this other airplane in the pattern. The student flying made all calls properly.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.