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Attributes | |
ACN | 128841 |
Time | |
Date | 198911 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : ord |
State Reference | IL |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : dca |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Large Transport, Low Wing, 3 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | ground other : taxi |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : atp pilot : commercial |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 14000 flight time type : 10800 |
ASRS Report | 128841 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : ground critical |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Intra Facility Coordination Failure |
Situations | |
ATC Facility | procedure or policy : unspecified |
Narrative:
When taxiing at ord, one ground controller is used for departing aircraft and another ground controller on a different frequency is used for arrival aircraft. As a result you will be cleared to go in front of an aircraft that is not talking to your controller, on numerous occasions that aircraft has not yielded and the ground controller is not able to talk to the aircraft directly. I have had to apply heavy braking on several occasions taxiing out at bravo south. We were cleared to enter the outer taxiway in front of a widebody transport that never slowed down, we stopped abruptly. This is an unsafe operation, particularly with cold WX and potential poor braking conditions. It would appear that having one ground controller handle all aircraft on half of the airport and one for the other half, as is done at lax and sfo, would be a safer operation.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: PLT OF LGT HAD TO BRAKE TAXIING WHEN WDB ON ANOTHER GND FREQ DID NOT GIVE WAY.
Narrative: WHEN TAXIING AT ORD, ONE GND CTLR IS USED FOR DEPARTING ACFT AND ANOTHER GND CTLR ON A DIFFERENT FREQ IS USED FOR ARR ACFT. AS A RESULT YOU WILL BE CLRED TO GO IN FRONT OF AN ACFT THAT IS NOT TALKING TO YOUR CTLR, ON NUMEROUS OCCASIONS THAT ACFT HAS NOT YIELDED AND THE GND CTLR IS NOT ABLE TO TALK TO THE ACFT DIRECTLY. I HAVE HAD TO APPLY HEAVY BRAKING ON SEVERAL OCCASIONS TAXIING OUT AT BRAVO SOUTH. WE WERE CLRED TO ENTER THE OUTER TXWY IN FRONT OF A WDB THAT NEVER SLOWED DOWN, WE STOPPED ABRUPTLY. THIS IS AN UNSAFE OPERATION, PARTICULARLY WITH COLD WX AND POTENTIAL POOR BRAKING CONDITIONS. IT WOULD APPEAR THAT HAVING ONE GND CTLR HANDLE ALL ACFT ON HALF OF THE ARPT AND ONE FOR THE OTHER HALF, AS IS DONE AT LAX AND SFO, WOULD BE A SAFER OPERATION.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.