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Attributes | |
ACN | 128995 |
Time | |
Date | 198911 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : mcn |
State Reference | GA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 33000 msl bound upper : 33000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : ztl |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 210 flight time total : 19000 flight time type : 17000 |
ASRS Report | 128995 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | inflight encounter : weather other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
Flight from ft myers, fl to detroit, mi. A line of severe thunderstorms reached from east of detroit southwestward to tx. I had talked to company meteorology department before departure to determine best routing for thunderstorm avoidance. My plan was to follow normal routing of direct lakeland. J73 - J119 taylor, J85 dryer, V26 tripe X, direct detroit. This routing would keep us east of WX until about dryer (cleveland) and then deviations as needed to detroit. Upon taxiing out at ft myers ground control called us with a rerouting which would carry us over atlanta, bowling green, ft wayne, and into detroit from the southwest. We were told the rerouting was because of flow control into detroit. My plan was to have our clearance changed back to our original routing once we were level at cruising altitude (33,000'). My first request was to mia center, denied due to flow control. My second attempt with jax center was denied for the same reason. Finally, altitude center approved our request without hesitation and we had a good ride to dtw. As we passed east of atlanta we heard atl center give holding instructions to aircraft inbound to atl. This was due to a level 5 thunderstorm over atl airport. Tornadoes and severe WX were reported all along what would have been our route if we had followed ATC routing. My complaint is being given a flight plan through such known conditions. Who is behind it and why? This is the second occurrence in 6 months.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACR REPORTER REFILED FLT PLAN DUE TO WX, BUT RECEIVED ATC CLRNC INTO KNOWN TSTMS ALONG ORIGINAL ROUTE.
Narrative: FLT FROM FT MYERS, FL TO DETROIT, MI. A LINE OF SEVERE TSTMS REACHED FROM E OF DETROIT SOUTHWESTWARD TO TX. I HAD TALKED TO COMPANY METEOROLOGY DEPT BEFORE DEP TO DETERMINE BEST ROUTING FOR TSTM AVOIDANCE. MY PLAN WAS TO FOLLOW NORMAL ROUTING OF DIRECT LAKELAND. J73 - J119 TAYLOR, J85 DRYER, V26 TRIPE X, DIRECT DETROIT. THIS ROUTING WOULD KEEP US E OF WX UNTIL ABOUT DRYER (CLEVELAND) AND THEN DEVIATIONS AS NEEDED TO DETROIT. UPON TAXIING OUT AT FT MYERS GND CTL CALLED US WITH A REROUTING WHICH WOULD CARRY US OVER ATLANTA, BOWLING GREEN, FT WAYNE, AND INTO DETROIT FROM THE SW. WE WERE TOLD THE REROUTING WAS BECAUSE OF FLOW CTL INTO DETROIT. MY PLAN WAS TO HAVE OUR CLRNC CHANGED BACK TO OUR ORIGINAL ROUTING ONCE WE WERE LEVEL AT CRUISING ALT (33,000'). MY FIRST REQUEST WAS TO MIA CENTER, DENIED DUE TO FLOW CTL. MY SECOND ATTEMPT WITH JAX CENTER WAS DENIED FOR THE SAME REASON. FINALLY, ALT CENTER APPROVED OUR REQUEST WITHOUT HESITATION AND WE HAD A GOOD RIDE TO DTW. AS WE PASSED E OF ATLANTA WE HEARD ATL CENTER GIVE HOLDING INSTRUCTIONS TO ACFT INBND TO ATL. THIS WAS DUE TO A LEVEL 5 TSTM OVER ATL ARPT. TORNADOES AND SEVERE WX WERE REPORTED ALL ALONG WHAT WOULD HAVE BEEN OUR ROUTE IF WE HAD FOLLOWED ATC ROUTING. MY COMPLAINT IS BEING GIVEN A FLT PLAN THROUGH SUCH KNOWN CONDITIONS. WHO IS BEHIND IT AND WHY? THIS IS THE SECOND OCCURRENCE IN 6 MONTHS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.