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Attributes | |
ACN | 1290585 |
Time | |
Date | 201508 |
Local Time Of Day | 1201-1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | PHX.Airport |
State Reference | AZ |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Make Model Name | Airbus Industrie Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | Initial Approach |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Function | First Officer Pilot Not Flying |
Qualification | Flight Crew Air Transport Pilot (ATP) |
Person 2 | |
Function | Pilot Flying Captain |
Qualification | Flight Crew Commercial |
Events | |
Anomaly | ATC Issue All Types Deviation - Procedural Clearance |
Narrative:
Descending into phx on the HYDRR1 RNAV STAR landing to the east. On initial contact with approach control was told to expect runway 7R. The next controller initially told us to expect the visual for runway 7R. At approximately 7;000 feet the controller told us to turn to a heading to intercept the localizer for runway 8 and contact the final approach controller. At that time I believed he cleared us to 6;000 feet. We assumed we were being kept a little high due to luke AFB airspace located west of phx. Upon initial contact with the final controller she cleared us for the runway 8 approach to phx and told us to maintain 210 kts till a 10 mile final. The captain and myself both expressed concern that we would be too high and fast for a stabilized approach. I informed the controller that we were unable to maintain 210 kts till a 10 mile final. She then issued a clearance to turn to a heading for the runway 7R approach. Both the captain and I were confused on this clearance since we were initially issued the runway 7R approach followed up by the runway 8 approach and now back to the runway 7R approach. I then asked the controlled about the clearance if it was correct since neither myself nor the captain have received a clearance like this before flying into phx. She seemed to be frustrated with us and told us to fly the approach. At this time we were not sure if we were cleared for the ILS rwy 7R or the visual approach to runway 7R and she seemed to be confused somehow with what was going on. I asked for an altitude to descend to and a heading to fly. Was told to descend to 3;000 feet and was given a heading to fly. She informed us that we would be flying through the runway 7R localizer. We told her that we were going to need a phone number to call and she quickly rattled off a phone number; told us to turn to a heading that would re-intercept final and cleared for the visual for runway 7R. I repeated what I could on the clearance and stopped talking since we were overwhelmed with flying and navigating under the high workload. We intercepted final inside the final approach fix and was able to be established on a stable approach by our 1;000 foot callout. Once I contacted the tower we were cleared to land on runway 7L. Since we were stable on the approach at this time we accepted and landed on runway 7L.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: After several runway changes; and with some discussion about speeds and altitudes and headings; the crew landed successfully on Runway 7L at PHX.
Narrative: Descending into PHX on the HYDRR1 RNAV STAR landing to the east. On initial contact with approach control was told to expect runway 7R. The next controller initially told us to expect the visual for runway 7R. At approximately 7;000 feet the controller told us to turn to a heading to intercept the localizer for runway 8 and contact the final approach controller. At that time I believed he cleared us to 6;000 feet. We assumed we were being kept a little high due to Luke AFB airspace located west of PHX. Upon initial contact with the final controller she cleared us for the runway 8 approach to PHX and told us to maintain 210 kts till a 10 mile final. The Captain and myself both expressed concern that we would be too high and fast for a stabilized approach. I informed the controller that we were unable to maintain 210 kts till a 10 mile final. She then issued a clearance to turn to a heading for the runway 7R approach. Both the Captain and I were confused on this clearance since we were initially issued the runway 7R approach followed up by the runway 8 approach and now back to the runway 7R approach. I then asked the controlled about the clearance if it was correct since neither myself nor the Captain have received a clearance like this before flying into PHX. She seemed to be frustrated with us and told us to fly the approach. At this time we were not sure if we were cleared for the ILS Rwy 7R or the visual approach to runway 7R and she seemed to be confused somehow with what was going on. I asked for an altitude to descend to and a heading to fly. Was told to descend to 3;000 feet and was given a heading to fly. She informed us that we would be flying through the runway 7R localizer. We told her that we were going to need a phone number to call and she quickly rattled off a phone number; told us to turn to a heading that would re-intercept final and cleared for the visual for runway 7R. I repeated what I could on the clearance and stopped talking since we were overwhelmed with flying and navigating under the high workload. We intercepted final inside the final approach fix and was able to be established on a stable approach by our 1;000 foot callout. Once I contacted the tower we were cleared to land on runway 7L. Since we were stable on the approach at this time we accepted and landed on runway 7L.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.