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Attributes | |
ACN | 129074 |
Time | |
Date | 198911 |
Day | Sat |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : dtw |
State Reference | MI |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 12000 msl bound upper : 12000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : dtw |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport |
Flight Phase | cruise other descent other |
Route In Use | enroute : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : flight engineer pilot : cfi |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 14500 flight time type : 7000 |
ASRS Report | 129074 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : atp pilot : instrument |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : published procedure non adherence : far |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted none taken : unable |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Operational Deviation |
Narrative:
The det approach controller was using only #'south to control traffic. No company names were heard. When asked to use company names, the controller became very irritable. His actions included issuing descent clrncs we could not possibly comply with, 180 degree heading changes, remarks like: '...hope you guys like going in circles,' ignoring calls, etc. It was not a good day in detroit. The controller was obviously not a student of ATP 7110.65, nor a reader of captain monan's 'addressee errors in ATC communications: the call sign problem.'
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACR FLT CREW'S COMPLAINT ABOUT RADIO PROC BY APCH CTLR AT DTW.
Narrative: THE DET APCH CTLR WAS USING ONLY #'S TO CTL TFC. NO COMPANY NAMES WERE HEARD. WHEN ASKED TO USE COMPANY NAMES, THE CTLR BECAME VERY IRRITABLE. HIS ACTIONS INCLUDED ISSUING DSCNT CLRNCS WE COULD NOT POSSIBLY COMPLY WITH, 180 DEG HDG CHANGES, REMARKS LIKE: '...HOPE YOU GUYS LIKE GOING IN CIRCLES,' IGNORING CALLS, ETC. IT WAS NOT A GOOD DAY IN DETROIT. THE CTLR WAS OBVIOUSLY NOT A STUDENT OF ATP 7110.65, NOR A READER OF CAPT MONAN'S 'ADDRESSEE ERRORS IN ATC COMS: THE CALL SIGN PROB.'
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.