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Attributes | |
ACN | 1292202 |
Time | |
Date | 201509 |
Local Time Of Day | 0601-1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | N90.TRACON |
State Reference | NY |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Dawn |
Aircraft 1 | |
Make Model Name | Citation Excel (C560XL) |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 135 |
Flight Phase | Initial Climb |
Route In Use | SID HPN5 |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Function | First Officer Pilot Not Flying |
Qualification | Flight Crew Air Transport Pilot (ATP) |
Experience | Flight Crew Last 90 Days 20 Flight Crew Total 14000 Flight Crew Type 45 |
Events | |
Anomaly | Deviation - Procedural Clearance Deviation - Track / Heading All Types |
Narrative:
Due to rest requirements; I arrived at the aircraft an hour after the PIC. When I arrived at the aircraft; the PIC had already obtained the clearance and loaded the flight plan into the navigation unit. The PIC briefed that the clearance was 'radar vectors' to gayel flight plan route. I asked if we were cleared via the initial climb portion of the SID. No; radar vectors.shortly after takeoff; checked in with departure control. Then shortly after checking in; departure controller said that it looked like we were not on the SID. The SID called for a turn to 295 at 1;000. I replied that we were on radar vectors. The controller gave us a turn to 285; then a heading to gayle. I believe we should have done the initial climb portion of the SID; then expected radar vectors to gayle; but not hearing the clearance; I took the word of the PIC.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: First Officer reported that they flew the departure via radar vectors to a fix. ATC questioned them why they were not flying the SID. Controller then gave them a turn to join the SID. First Officer took the word of the pilot in command.
Narrative: Due to rest requirements; I arrived at the aircraft an hour after the PIC. When I arrived at the aircraft; the PIC had already obtained the clearance and loaded the flight plan into the navigation unit. The PIC briefed that the clearance was 'radar vectors' to GAYEL flight plan route. I asked if we were cleared via the initial climb portion of the SID. No; radar vectors.Shortly after takeoff; checked in with departure control. Then shortly after checking in; departure controller said that it looked like we were not on the SID. The SID called for a turn to 295 at 1;000. I replied that we were on radar vectors. The controller gave us a turn to 285; then a heading to GAYLE. I believe we should have done the initial climb portion of the SID; then expected radar vectors to GAYLE; but not hearing the clearance; I took the word of the PIC.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.