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Attributes | |
ACN | 1303340 |
Time | |
Date | 201510 |
Local Time Of Day | 0601-1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | ZZZ.Airport |
State Reference | US |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Make Model Name | Bonanza 35 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | Taxi |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Function | Pilot Not Flying Trainee |
Qualification | Flight Crew Instrument Flight Crew Private |
Experience | Flight Crew Last 90 Days 10 Flight Crew Total 240 Flight Crew Type 10 |
Person 2 | |
Function | Instructor Pilot Flying |
Qualification | Flight Crew Flight Instructor Flight Crew Air Transport Pilot (ATP) Flight Crew Instrument Flight Crew Multiengine |
Experience | Flight Crew Last 90 Days 75 Flight Crew Total 17500 Flight Crew Type 3000 |
Events | |
Anomaly | ATC Issue All Types Deviation - Procedural Clearance Deviation - Procedural Published Material / Policy Flight Deck / Cabin / Aircraft Event Other / Unknown Ground Incursion Runway |
Narrative:
New owner; has not flown in over 30 years. Training for currency and time in type for insurance requirements.1. Taxi clearance received taxi to runway 33; via east; a; B cleared to cross runway 04/22; understood; acknowledged; viewed on ipad; read back by myself. First time to taxi to that runway; used to taxi to 04. Cfii involved/distracted in reading back a full route clearance correct read back.2. While taxiing on taxiway alpha southbound the ground controller said your IFR clearance is available; ready to copy? Cfii had done the filing; I the owner was not familiar with routing and the long full route clearance; so cfii was busy reading back the clearance with some misunderstanding about the first fix...lilly intersection...it was louie intersection...both pilots fully distracted while taxing and talking to ground.3. Aircraft taxied southbound on alpha crossing the active runway 33. Instructor takes full responsibility as PIC and never should have been taking a full route clearance while taxiing on an unfamiliar airport with an essentially new pilot in training.4. Causes: over tasking in the cockpit; distraction while taxiing. Tower: ground controller should not give out full route clearances to an aircraft while it is taxiing. Clearance delivery should be a separate frequency.cfii called the tower supervisor to discuss as soon as he could after landing.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A distracted BE35 owner/student and his instructor incurred a runway while taxiing for takeoff as the instructor copied and read back a full route clearance.
Narrative: New Owner; has not flown in over 30 years. Training for currency and time in type for insurance requirements.1. Taxi clearance received taxi to runway 33; via E; A; B cleared to cross runway 04/22; understood; acknowledged; viewed on IPAD; read back by myself. First time to taxi to that runway; used to taxi to 04. CFII involved/distracted in reading back a full route clearance correct read back.2. While taxiing on taxiway Alpha southbound the ground controller said your IFR clearance is available; ready to copy? CFII had done the filing; I the owner was not familiar with routing and the long full route clearance; so CFII was busy reading back the clearance with some misunderstanding about the first fix...LILLY intersection...it was LOUIE intersection...both pilots fully distracted while taxing and talking to ground.3. Aircraft taxied southbound on Alpha crossing the active runway 33. Instructor takes full responsibility as PIC and never should have been taking a full route clearance while taxiing on an unfamiliar airport with an essentially NEW pilot in training.4. Causes: over tasking in the cockpit; distraction while taxiing. Tower: ground controller should not give out full route clearances to an aircraft while it is taxiing. Clearance delivery should be a separate frequency.CFII called the tower supervisor to discuss as soon as he could after landing.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.