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CDU hold page widebody transport aircraft showed right turn for holding pattern at jenno. Center controller advised left turns was the pattern. Clearance was to hold west as published. No published hold pattern on communication hi altitude, low altitude, new york area approach, NOAA charts.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 130487 |
| Time | |
| Date | 198912 |
| Day | Tue |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : avp |
| State Reference | PA |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 35000 msl bound upper : 35000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Dusk |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | artcc : zny |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Widebody, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
| Navigation In Use | Other Other |
| Flight Phase | other |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : instrument pilot : flight engineer pilot : commercial pilot : cfi |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 195 flight time total : 4500 flight time type : 955 |
| ASRS Report | 130487 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | non adherence : clearance other spatial deviation |
| Independent Detector | other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance other |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
Approximately 20 mi west of avp (wilkes-barre) on J-70 we were given a descent clearance from FL410 to FL350. While descending ZNY issued a holding clearance to us 'hold west at jenno intersection as published.' we put jenno intersection into our flight management computer CDU on the 'hold' page. The holding pattern displayed on our HSI depicted a right turn at jenno. As we passed jenno and started a right turn ZNY said 'turn left heading 350 degree'. At that time we were informed that the holding pattern was left turns instead of right turns. We were then given vectors back to the holding fix (jenno) and to resume holding at jenno. On all of our charts (us hi 4 and ny area) there was no depicted holding pattern at jenno. It is understood by me that if a clearance such as 'hold west as published' is given, then a right turn would be the correct action.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: CDU HOLD PAGE WDB ACFT SHOWED RIGHT TURN FOR HOLDING PATTERN AT JENNO. CENTER CTLR ADVISED LEFT TURNS WAS THE PATTERN. CLRNC WAS TO HOLD WEST AS PUBLISHED. NO PUBLISHED HOLD PATTERN ON COM HI ALT, LOW ALT, NEW YORK AREA APCH, NOAA CHARTS.
Narrative: APPROX 20 MI W OF AVP (WILKES-BARRE) ON J-70 WE WERE GIVEN A DSCNT CLRNC FROM FL410 TO FL350. WHILE DESCENDING ZNY ISSUED A HOLDING CLRNC TO US 'HOLD W AT JENNO INTXN AS PUBLISHED.' WE PUT JENNO INTXN INTO OUR FLT MGMNT COMPUTER CDU ON THE 'HOLD' PAGE. THE HOLDING PATTERN DISPLAYED ON OUR HSI DEPICTED A RIGHT TURN AT JENNO. AS WE PASSED JENNO AND STARTED A RIGHT TURN ZNY SAID 'TURN LEFT HDG 350 DEG'. AT THAT TIME WE WERE INFORMED THAT THE HOLDING PATTERN WAS LEFT TURNS INSTEAD OF RIGHT TURNS. WE WERE THEN GIVEN VECTORS BACK TO THE HOLDING FIX (JENNO) AND TO RESUME HOLDING AT JENNO. ON ALL OF OUR CHARTS (US HI 4 AND NY AREA) THERE WAS NO DEPICTED HOLDING PATTERN AT JENNO. IT IS UNDERSTOOD BY ME THAT IF A CLRNC SUCH AS 'HOLD W AS PUBLISHED' IS GIVEN, THEN A RIGHT TURN WOULD BE THE CORRECT ACTION.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.