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Attributes | |
ACN | 130744 |
Time | |
Date | 198912 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : msy |
State Reference | LA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 1500 msl bound upper : 2000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | Mixed |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : msy tower : syr |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : flight engineer pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 8600 flight time type : 6300 |
ASRS Report | 130744 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : overshoot non adherence : clearance non adherence : published procedure |
Independent Detector | atc equipment other atc equipment : unspecified |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course flight crew : became reoriented |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
We were approaching msy from the north. The ATIS was almost 3 hours old, and calling for ILS to runway 28. When I called approach control, they gave us a vector to the localizer backcourse 19. I mentioned the discrepancy to approach and we set up for and flew the backcourse runway 19. The WX was better than ATIS indicated. We broke out about 6 or 7 mi out and inadvertently descended below the 2000' minimum before crossing the FAF and set off the altitude alert in the tower. Dark stormy nights are busy enough west/O ATC broadcasting old information.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACR MLG DESCENDS BELOW CROSSING ALT FOR THE AMPAR IAF ON THE LOCALIZER BACKCOURSE RWY 19 AT MSY.
Narrative: WE WERE APCHING MSY FROM THE N. THE ATIS WAS ALMOST 3 HRS OLD, AND CALLING FOR ILS TO RWY 28. WHEN I CALLED APCH CTL, THEY GAVE US A VECTOR TO THE LOC BACKCOURSE 19. I MENTIONED THE DISCREPANCY TO APCH AND WE SET UP FOR AND FLEW THE BACKCOURSE RWY 19. THE WX WAS BETTER THAN ATIS INDICATED. WE BROKE OUT ABOUT 6 OR 7 MI OUT AND INADVERTENTLY DSNDED BELOW THE 2000' MINIMUM BEFORE XING THE FAF AND SET OFF THE ALT ALERT IN THE TWR. DARK STORMY NIGHTS ARE BUSY ENOUGH W/O ATC BROADCASTING OLD INFO.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.