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Attributes | |
ACN | 1307600 |
Time | |
Date | 201511 |
Local Time Of Day | 1801-2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | ZZZ.ARTCC |
State Reference | US |
Environment | |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport Low Wing 2 Turbojet Eng |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | Descent |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Make Model Name | Medium Transport Low Wing 2 Turbojet Eng |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | Descent |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Function | Enroute |
Qualification | Air Traffic Control Fully Certified |
Experience | Air Traffic Control Time Certified In Pos 1 (yrs) 3 |
Events | |
Anomaly | ATC Issue All Types Airspace Violation All Types Deviation - Procedural Published Material / Policy |
Narrative:
ZZZ1 X sector called ZZZ X sector; which owns 33000 and above and asked them to descend both aircraft to 31000 feet. ZZZ1 never pointed out the aircraft to me at the ZZZ Y sector. Upon calling ZZZ1 and asking the controller he responded with 'that's not my job; I told the ZZZ X sector to descend him; so that's their coordination.' I told him that I believe he was incorrect and that he should look up the procedure. This is a safety event because we often have traffic at 32000 feet; luckily at this moment we did not; but ZZZ1 X sector has been misinformed on coordination procedures.ZZZ1 X sector needs to know that when they have another sector issue control instructions; they are in fact responsible for any additional coordination that that aircraft may need with surrounding sectors. I feel that if the controller that did this does not hear he was in fact wrong; he will surely have a safety event involving a loss of separation. Luckily; these two aircraft in this situation were two separate airspace violations; so we did not have a loss of separation involving two aircraft.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ATC Center Controller reported improper coordination by an adjacent Center Controller; due to an apparent misunderstanding of standard procedures.
Narrative: ZZZ1 X sector called ZZZ X sector; which owns 33000 and above and asked them to descend both aircraft to 31000 feet. ZZZ1 never pointed out the aircraft to me at the ZZZ Y sector. Upon calling ZZZ1 and asking the controller he responded with 'that's not my job; I told the ZZZ X sector to descend him; so that's their coordination.' I told him that I believe he was incorrect and that he should look up the procedure. This is a safety event because we often have traffic at 32000 feet; luckily at this moment we did not; but ZZZ1 X sector has been misinformed on coordination procedures.ZZZ1 X sector needs to know that when they have another sector issue control instructions; they are in fact responsible for any additional coordination that that aircraft may need with surrounding sectors. I feel that if the controller that did this does not hear he was in fact wrong; he will surely have a safety event involving a loss of separation. Luckily; these two aircraft in this situation were two separate airspace violations; so we did not have a loss of separation involving two aircraft.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.