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First officer of an large transport failed to obtain flight plan clearance prior to pushback due to a misunderstanding and coordination with ground and clearance tower control.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 326860 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199601 |
| Day | Mon |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : ccs |
| State Reference | FO |
| Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | B727 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | ground : preflight |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
| ASRS Report | 326860 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
At approximately XX30Z I called ground on 121.9 for push and start. I was the first officer on the flight from ccs to mia. 10 minutes prior to start, I called on 121.9 for push and start clearance. I was told to call on 119.5 for clearance. I changed frequencys and called for clearance. We were told to call back in 5 mins which we did. After 5 mins, we were told to start and was given clearance to push and start. We were pushed and we started on 119.5 with no problems. After start we were told to go to 121.9 for taxi. When we switched to 121.9, the controller wanted to know who had cleared us. I told him the other controller on 119.5, and then he directed us back to 119.5 and were not to taxi until we had our ATC clearance. We went back to 121.9 for taxi and the ground control wanted the pilot name and number. This information was passed and then we were cleared to taxi.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FO OF AN LGT FAILED TO OBTAIN FLT PLAN CLRNC PRIOR TO PUSHBACK DUE TO A MISUNDERSTANDING AND COORD WITH GND AND CLRNC TWR CTL.
Narrative: AT APPROX XX30Z I CALLED GND ON 121.9 FOR PUSH AND START. I WAS THE FO ON THE FLT FROM CCS TO MIA. 10 MINUTES PRIOR TO START, I CALLED ON 121.9 FOR PUSH AND START CLRNC. I WAS TOLD TO CALL ON 119.5 FOR CLRNC. I CHANGED FREQS AND CALLED FOR CLRNC. WE WERE TOLD TO CALL BACK IN 5 MINS WHICH WE DID. AFTER 5 MINS, WE WERE TOLD TO START AND WAS GIVEN CLRNC TO PUSH AND START. WE WERE PUSHED AND WE STARTED ON 119.5 WITH NO PROBS. AFTER START WE WERE TOLD TO GO TO 121.9 FOR TAXI. WHEN WE SWITCHED TO 121.9, THE CTLR WANTED TO KNOW WHO HAD CLRED US. I TOLD HIM THE OTHER CTLR ON 119.5, AND THEN HE DIRECTED US BACK TO 119.5 AND WERE NOT TO TAXI UNTIL WE HAD OUR ATC CLRNC. WE WENT BACK TO 121.9 FOR TAXI AND THE GND CTL WANTED THE PLT NAME AND NUMBER. THIS INFO WAS PASSED AND THEN WE WERE CLRED TO TAXI.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.