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Attributes | |
ACN | 132146 |
Time | |
Date | 198912 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : bow |
State Reference | FL |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 1800 msl bound upper : 1800 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : bow tower : tpe |
Operator | general aviation : corporate |
Make Model Name | Small Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turboprop Eng |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : cfi |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 80 flight time total : 23000 flight time type : 700 |
ASRS Report | 132146 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | controller : local |
Qualification | controller : non radar |
Events | |
Anomaly | incursion : landing without clearance non adherence : clearance other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Ambiguous |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Situations | |
ATC Facility | procedure or policy : unspecified |
Narrative:
I was cleared by tampa approach for VOR/DME approach to bartow (bow), fl. I reported over or just past the FAF to bartow tower and received a response (the final approach fix is 5 miles from end of runway). Upon landing the tower operator said that he instructed me to report 3 miles out. We have been having difficulty understanding this tower operator. Also it is an additional workload during instrument approach conditions to require 2 radio reports in less than 1 minute. To make this approach you must lose 1700' in 2 1/2 minutes to the touchdown. We need tower and control operators that speak clearly and are pilot experienced to recognize the unnecessary workloads they can impose. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following: reporter cleared up anomaly regarding incident date. He strongly reiterated his complaint about the controller's understandability and broadened it to his perception that many controllers have no experience as pilots and therefore cannot handle aircraft with insight as to what the pilot has to do. FAA has taken no action with respect to the specific incident and reporter thinks it was not sent on to enforcement.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: PLT OF SMT ON IAP MISINTERPRETED LCL CTLR'S REQUEST THAT HE CALL 2 MILES OUT AS CLRNC TO LAND.
Narrative: I WAS CLRED BY TAMPA APCH FOR VOR/DME APCH TO BARTOW (BOW), FL. I REPORTED OVER OR JUST PAST THE FAF TO BARTOW TWR AND RECEIVED A RESPONSE (THE FINAL APCH FIX IS 5 MILES FROM END OF RWY). UPON LNDG THE TWR OPERATOR SAID THAT HE INSTRUCTED ME TO REPORT 3 MILES OUT. WE HAVE BEEN HAVING DIFFICULTY UNDERSTANDING THIS TWR OPERATOR. ALSO IT IS AN ADDITIONAL WORKLOAD DURING INSTRUMENT APCH CONDITIONS TO REQUIRE 2 RADIO REPORTS IN LESS THAN 1 MINUTE. TO MAKE THIS APCH YOU MUST LOSE 1700' IN 2 1/2 MINUTES TO THE TOUCHDOWN. WE NEED TWR AND CTL OPERATORS THAT SPEAK CLEARLY AND ARE PLT EXPERIENCED TO RECOGNIZE THE UNNECESSARY WORKLOADS THEY CAN IMPOSE. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH REPORTER REVEALED THE FOLLOWING: REPORTER CLRED UP ANOMALY REGARDING INCIDENT DATE. HE STRONGLY REITERATED HIS COMPLAINT ABOUT THE CTLR'S UNDERSTANDABILITY AND BROADENED IT TO HIS PERCEPTION THAT MANY CTLRS HAVE NO EXPERIENCE AS PLTS AND THEREFORE CANNOT HANDLE ACFT WITH INSIGHT AS TO WHAT THE PLT HAS TO DO. FAA HAS TAKEN NO ACTION WITH RESPECT TO THE SPECIFIC INCIDENT AND REPORTER THINKS IT WAS NOT SENT ON TO ENFORCEMENT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.