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Cpr PIC elects to takeoff from closed runway when he determines it is safe for his operation. Airport was closed by airport manager account WX conditions.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 132295 |
| Time | |
| Date | 198912 |
| Day | Sun |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : cxy |
| State Reference | PA |
| Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | IMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | general aviation : corporate |
| Make Model Name | Light Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
| Flight Phase | climbout : takeoff ground : holding ground other : taxi |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | Other |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 12000 flight time type : 100 |
| ASRS Report | 132295 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | Other |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 18000 flight time type : 7000 |
| ASRS Report | 132826 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | non adherence : clearance non adherence : far other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation other |
Narrative:
No ATIS available. A phone call was made to the tower for the latest WX which was given with no other comment. After starting engines and calling for taxi clearance, ground control informed us that the airport was closed. No reason given. I elected to taxi to the runway to find out what the problem was. Trucks were clearing the runway of slush, with the majority of the runway clear. I informed ground that the runway conditions were adequate for our operation and braking actin was good. Ground told us that we could not be cleared for takeoff by the tower controller as the airport was closed, but that we should contact departure control as soon as we departed. We initiated contact with departure control before start of our takeoff roll, and then reinitiated contact with them after becoming airborne. The flight progressed smoothly thereafter. Supplemental information from acn 132826: I asked for expected IFR clearance after airborne and was given such, including transponder code. We were advised that PA trucks were clear and I announced that we would takeoff our discretion, assume own risk. Department of transportation over radio apologized for inconvenience. Airport manager not on location at our field and was over at mdt. He maintains office at mdt, consequently has no immediate knowledge of existing conditions at cxy.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: CPR PIC ELECTS TO TKOF FROM CLOSED RWY WHEN HE DETERMINES IT IS SAFE FOR HIS OPERATION. ARPT WAS CLOSED BY ARPT MANAGER ACCOUNT WX CONDITIONS.
Narrative: NO ATIS AVAILABLE. A PHONE CALL WAS MADE TO THE TWR FOR THE LATEST WX WHICH WAS GIVEN WITH NO OTHER COMMENT. AFTER STARTING ENGS AND CALLING FOR TAXI CLRNC, GND CTL INFORMED US THAT THE ARPT WAS CLOSED. NO REASON GIVEN. I ELECTED TO TAXI TO THE RWY TO FIND OUT WHAT THE PROB WAS. TRUCKS WERE CLRING THE RWY OF SLUSH, WITH THE MAJORITY OF THE RWY CLR. I INFORMED GND THAT THE RWY CONDITIONS WERE ADEQUATE FOR OUR OPERATION AND BRAKING ACTIN WAS GOOD. GND TOLD US THAT WE COULD NOT BE CLRED FOR TKOF BY THE TWR CTLR AS THE ARPT WAS CLOSED, BUT THAT WE SHOULD CONTACT DEP CTL AS SOON AS WE DEPARTED. WE INITIATED CONTACT WITH DEP CTL BEFORE START OF OUR TKOF ROLL, AND THEN REINITIATED CONTACT WITH THEM AFTER BECOMING AIRBORNE. THE FLT PROGRESSED SMOOTHLY THEREAFTER. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 132826: I ASKED FOR EXPECTED IFR CLRNC AFTER AIRBORNE AND WAS GIVEN SUCH, INCLUDING XPONDER CODE. WE WERE ADVISED THAT PA TRUCKS WERE CLR AND I ANNOUNCED THAT WE WOULD TKOF OUR DISCRETION, ASSUME OWN RISK. DEPT OF TRANSPORTATION OVER RADIO APOLOGIZED FOR INCONVENIENCE. ARPT MGR NOT ON LOCATION AT OUR FIELD AND WAS OVER AT MDT. HE MAINTAINS OFFICE AT MDT, CONSEQUENTLY HAS NO IMMEDIATE KNOWLEDGE OF EXISTING CONDITIONS AT CXY.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.