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Attributes | |
ACN | 132817 |
Time | |
Date | 198912 |
Day | Sat |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : pit |
State Reference | PA |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : pit tower : pit |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Navigation In Use | Other |
Flight Phase | descent : approach landing other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : flight engineer pilot : instrument |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 8300 flight time type : 1600 |
ASRS Report | 132817 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Visibility at pit was up and down all day due to dense fog. Upon arrival at pit, RVR was 1200, touchdown 1800, roll-out on 10L. The captain (PF) consulted company legality charts for CAT I ILS. CAT ii procedure at pit not approved for our airline. He understood an RVR of 1800 anywhere on landing runway made us legal for CAT I on that runway. Later, on the ground at pit, after a 'very tight' approach, we discovered in the fine print we needed 1800 RVR at touchdown! That was bad enough, but why weren't they using runway 28R where they had better RVR! They are asking for trouble when RVR on the other end of the same runway is better than the approach end. We misunderstood the legality charts in an honest effort to do the right thing. But, it could have been avoided if they were to land on 28R with an 1800 RVR on touchdown. Had we read the fine print earlier, we would have requested 28R.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: APCH BELOW MINIMUMR RV.
Narrative: VISIBILITY AT PIT WAS UP AND DOWN ALL DAY DUE TO DENSE FOG. UPON ARR AT PIT, RVR WAS 1200, TOUCHDOWN 1800, ROLL-OUT ON 10L. THE CAPT (PF) CONSULTED COMPANY LEGALITY CHARTS FOR CAT I ILS. CAT II PROC AT PIT NOT APPROVED FOR OUR AIRLINE. HE UNDERSTOOD AN RVR OF 1800 ANYWHERE ON LNDG RWY MADE US LEGAL FOR CAT I ON THAT RWY. LATER, ON THE GND AT PIT, AFTER A 'VERY TIGHT' APCH, WE DISCOVERED IN THE FINE PRINT WE NEEDED 1800 RVR AT TOUCHDOWN! THAT WAS BAD ENOUGH, BUT WHY WEREN'T THEY USING RWY 28R WHERE THEY HAD BETTER RVR! THEY ARE ASKING FOR TROUBLE WHEN RVR ON THE OTHER END OF THE SAME RWY IS BETTER THAN THE APCH END. WE MISUNDERSTOOD THE LEGALITY CHARTS IN AN HONEST EFFORT TO DO THE RIGHT THING. BUT, IT COULD HAVE BEEN AVOIDED IF THEY WERE TO LAND ON 28R WITH AN 1800 RVR ON TOUCHDOWN. HAD WE READ THE FINE PRINT EARLIER, WE WOULD HAVE REQUESTED 28R.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.