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Reporter complains about limited airspace between TCA and adjacent arsa pilots must fly in order to remain clear of both areas.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 133371 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199001 |
| Day | Fri |
| Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : smo |
| State Reference | CA |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 4800 msl bound upper : 5000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Night |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : bur |
| Operator | general aviation : personal |
| Make Model Name | Small Aircraft, High Wing, 1 Eng, Fixed Gear |
| Flight Phase | cruise other |
| Flight Plan | None |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | Other |
| Function | flight crew : single pilot |
| Qualification | pilot : private pilot : instrument |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 20 flight time total : 750 flight time type : 200 |
| ASRS Report | 133371 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | government : faa |
| Function | controller : approach |
| Qualification | controller : radar |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : less severe non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
I was under the hood getting simulated IFR time, with a fellow pilot as safety pilot. We had just exited the special flight rules corridor over lax at 4500', and climbed to 4900 (the floor of the TCA is 5000' in that area). After establishing radar contact with burbank approach, he advised us we were at 5000', which was the floor of the TCA. I told him we showed 4900', but descended 100' to insure clearance. The altimeter was properly set. The boundary of the lax TCA and burbank arsa contributed to this near intrusion. I recommend that either the TCA floor be raised or the arsa ceiling lowered to provide a minimum 500' 'clear space'.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: REPORTER COMPLAINS ABOUT LIMITED AIRSPACE BETWEEN TCA AND ADJACENT ARSA PLTS MUST FLY IN ORDER TO REMAIN CLEAR OF BOTH AREAS.
Narrative: I WAS UNDER THE HOOD GETTING SIMULATED IFR TIME, WITH A FELLOW PLT AS SAFETY PLT. WE HAD JUST EXITED THE SPECIAL FLT RULES CORRIDOR OVER LAX AT 4500', AND CLIMBED TO 4900 (THE FLOOR OF THE TCA IS 5000' IN THAT AREA). AFTER ESTABLISHING RADAR CONTACT WITH BURBANK APCH, HE ADVISED US WE WERE AT 5000', WHICH WAS THE FLOOR OF THE TCA. I TOLD HIM WE SHOWED 4900', BUT DESCENDED 100' TO INSURE CLRNC. THE ALTIMETER WAS PROPERLY SET. THE BOUNDARY OF THE LAX TCA AND BURBANK ARSA CONTRIBUTED TO THIS NEAR INTRUSION. I RECOMMEND THAT EITHER THE TCA FLOOR BE RAISED OR THE ARSA CEILING LOWERED TO PROVIDE A MINIMUM 500' 'CLEAR SPACE'.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.