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Attributes | |
ACN | 133478 |
Time | |
Date | 199001 |
Day | Sun |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : crg |
State Reference | FL |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 29000 msl bound upper : 29000 |
Environment | |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zjx |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Large Transport, Low Wing, 3 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | cruise other descent other |
Route In Use | enroute : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Route In Use | enroute : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | controller : radar |
Qualification | controller : radar |
Experience | controller radar : 19 |
ASRS Report | 133478 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : required legal separation |
Independent Detector | other other : unspecified atc |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance none taken : unable |
Consequence | faa : investigated |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 27600 vertical : 0 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Operational Error |
Narrative:
2 aircraft at FL310 crossing. I descended air carrier X to FL290 to miss Z at FL310, and I turned air carrier Y at FL290 to a heading of 010 degree to miss air carrier X. I turned air carrier X to a heading of 180 degree. Both aircraft I had to transmit twice for a reply. Second transmission to Y, I turned to a heading of 020 degree and separation was apparently lost. I think if both aircraft replied with first transmission separation would not have been lost.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: LESS THAN STANDARD SEPARATION BETWEEN 2 ACR ACFT. OPERATIONAL ERROR.
Narrative: 2 ACFT AT FL310 XING. I DESCENDED ACR X TO FL290 TO MISS Z AT FL310, AND I TURNED ACR Y AT FL290 TO A HDG OF 010 DEG TO MISS ACR X. I TURNED ACR X TO A HDG OF 180 DEG. BOTH ACFT I HAD TO XMIT TWICE FOR A REPLY. SECOND XMISSION TO Y, I TURNED TO A HDG OF 020 DEG AND SEPARATION WAS APPARENTLY LOST. I THINK IF BOTH ACFT REPLIED WITH FIRST XMISSION SEPARATION WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN LOST.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.