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Attributes | |
ACN | 133930 |
Time | |
Date | 199001 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : etx |
State Reference | PA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 10000 msl bound upper : 11000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Dusk |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zny |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | descent other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : flight engineer |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 7400 flight time type : 2300 |
ASRS Report | 133930 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : atp pilot : commercial |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 180 flight time total : 5000 flight time type : 300 |
ASRS Report | 133908 |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : overshoot non adherence : clearance other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
ZNY on frequency 135.75 issued a descent clearance from cruise to cross etx at 10000' and 250 KTS. As we leveled at 10000', center called back and said the crossing restriction was etx at 11000' and 250 KTS. First officer restated the clearance as we had received it and as he had originally read it back, which was 'east tx at 1-0-thousand at 200 and 50 KTS.' center stated: 'no problem, climb and maintain 11000,' which we did. No traffic incursion or conflict. As long as there is verbal communication between human beings with no hard copy verification (such as an ACARS message perhaps) these problems are sure to occur.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACKNOWLEDGED DESCENT TO 10000', CTLR SAYS CLEARED TO 11000'.
Narrative: ZNY ON FREQ 135.75 ISSUED A DSCNT CLRNC FROM CRUISE TO CROSS ETX AT 10000' AND 250 KTS. AS WE LEVELED AT 10000', CENTER CALLED BACK AND SAID THE XING RESTRICTION WAS ETX AT 11000' AND 250 KTS. F/O RESTATED THE CLRNC AS WE HAD RECEIVED IT AND AS HE HAD ORIGINALLY READ IT BACK, WHICH WAS 'E TX AT 1-0-THOUSAND AT 200 AND 50 KTS.' CENTER STATED: 'NO PROB, CLB AND MAINTAIN 11000,' WHICH WE DID. NO TFC INCURSION OR CONFLICT. AS LONG AS THERE IS VERBAL COM BTWN HUMAN BEINGS WITH NO HARD COPY VERIFICATION (SUCH AS AN ACARS MESSAGE PERHAPS) THESE PROBS ARE SURE TO OCCUR.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.