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Attributes | |
ACN | 134550 |
Time | |
Date | 199001 |
Day | Sat |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : lga |
State Reference | NY |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 1500 msl bound upper : 1500 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Light | Dusk |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : n90 tower : atl |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Widebody, Low Wing, 3 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude cruise other |
Route In Use | departure sid : sid |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 250 flight time total : 14000 flight time type : 250 |
ASRS Report | 134550 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | other |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
First officer flying. 4 overcast 2R-F. Departure lga 3 runway 13 (whitestone climb), turn right, climb on a 175 degree heading until 1500' or lga 3 NM DME, whichever is sooner, then turn left to an 040 degree heading. The above procedure was accomplished, however the noise abatement procedure limits the bank angle to 150 degrees until the 1.5 vs speed is achieved above 3000' AGL. This procedure would produce approximately 1 2.5 NM turn radius. Departure control questioned our position as it related to his assigned airspace. No conflict was reported.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: REPORTER CLAIMS COMPANY NOISE ABATEMENT PROC FOR THIS ACFT NOT COMPATIBLE WITH DEP PATTERN REQUIRED BY DEP CTLR AT LGA.
Narrative: F/O FLYING. 4 OVCST 2R-F. DEP LGA 3 RWY 13 (WHITESTONE CLB), TURN RIGHT, CLB ON A 175 DEG HDG UNTIL 1500' OR LGA 3 NM DME, WHICHEVER IS SOONER, THEN TURN LEFT TO AN 040 DEG HDG. THE ABOVE PROC WAS ACCOMPLISHED, HOWEVER THE NOISE ABATEMENT PROC LIMITS THE BANK ANGLE TO 150 DEGS UNTIL THE 1.5 VS SPD IS ACHIEVED ABOVE 3000' AGL. THIS PROC WOULD PRODUCE APPROX 1 2.5 NM TURN RADIUS. DEP CTL QUESTIONED OUR POS AS IT RELATED TO HIS ASSIGNED AIRSPACE. NO CONFLICT WAS RPTED.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.