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Attributes | |
ACN | 134816 |
Time | |
Date | 199001 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : msy |
State Reference | LA |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 800 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : msy tower : msy |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Large Transport, Low Wing, 3 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | climbout : initial climbout : takeoff |
Route In Use | departure other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Make Model Name | Small Transport, Low Wing, 2 Recip Eng |
Flight Phase | climbout : takeoff climbout : initial cruise other |
Route In Use | departure other |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : flight engineer pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 5300 flight time type : 2000 |
ASRS Report | 134816 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : published procedure non adherence : required legal separation non adherence other other anomaly other other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action none taken : insufficient time |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 5000 vertical : 0 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation Intra Facility Coordination Failure Operational Error |
Situations | |
ATC Facility | procedure or policy : unspecified |
Narrative:
Takeoff clearance was given to our aircraft for runway 19, referencing a light twin (low wing) departing on runway 10. Tower directed us to maintain visibility on the twin, said he would be departing to the southwest, and further advised there was traffic on short final for our runway. As we began our roll the twin was beginning a slow turn to the right, beyond the runway intersection and to the left of our takeoff path. As we became airborne the twin appeared to be paralleling our flight path to the left. I made a slight right turn for sep, at which time the twin began a shallow turn to the right, across our flight path. I made a turn to the left, positive but not excessive, to pass behind the twin. We were approximately co-altitude at the time. We were switching to departure control at the time, who seemed concerned that we had the traffic in sight. Contributing factors include: 1) simultaneous takeoffs on perpendicular runways, 2) uncertainty on our crew's part as to the intention of the pilot of the twin, 3) traffic on short final behind us as we held in position for takeoff.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A DEP ACR LGT EXPERIENCES LOSS OF SEPARATION WITH ANOTHER DEP ACFT ON A CROSSING RWY DEP.
Narrative: TKOF CLRNC WAS GIVEN TO OUR ACFT FOR RWY 19, REFERENCING A LIGHT TWIN (LOW WING) DEPARTING ON RWY 10. TWR DIRECTED US TO MAINTAIN VIS ON THE TWIN, SAID HE WOULD BE DEPARTING TO THE SW, AND FURTHER ADVISED THERE WAS TFC ON SHORT FINAL FOR OUR RWY. AS WE BEGAN OUR ROLL THE TWIN WAS BEGINNING A SLOW TURN TO THE RIGHT, BEYOND THE RWY INTXN AND TO THE LEFT OF OUR TKOF PATH. AS WE BECAME AIRBORNE THE TWIN APPEARED TO BE PARALLELING OUR FLT PATH TO THE LEFT. I MADE A SLIGHT RIGHT TURN FOR SEP, AT WHICH TIME THE TWIN BEGAN A SHALLOW TURN TO THE RIGHT, ACROSS OUR FLT PATH. I MADE A TURN TO THE LEFT, POSITIVE BUT NOT EXCESSIVE, TO PASS BEHIND THE TWIN. WE WERE APPROX CO-ALT AT THE TIME. WE WERE SWITCHING TO DEP CTL AT THE TIME, WHO SEEMED CONCERNED THAT WE HAD THE TFC IN SIGHT. CONTRIBUTING FACTORS INCLUDE: 1) SIMULTANEOUS TKOFS ON PERPENDICULAR RWYS, 2) UNCERTAINTY ON OUR CREW'S PART AS TO THE INTENTION OF THE PLT OF THE TWIN, 3) TFC ON SHORT FINAL BEHIND US AS WE HELD IN POS FOR TKOF.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.