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Attributes | |
ACN | 135149 |
Time | |
Date | 199001 |
Day | Sun |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : chd |
State Reference | AZ |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 11000 msl bound upper : 11000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : phx |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | descent other |
Route In Use | arrival star : star |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 248 flight time total : 4820 flight time type : 1310 |
ASRS Report | 135149 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : clearance other anomaly |
Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
We were given clearance to cross arlin intersection at 11,000 and 250 KTS. I told the captain that he was not going to make the crossing at this rate. He was going about 25 KTS less than normal descent speed. So he pushed the nose over to increase descent but would not use the speed brake. Then I said (to clue him in again), you will make the altitude but not the speed. Even this did not seem to phase him so we crossed at 320 KTS. We were not following traffic too close, but normally after arlin intersection we make a 30 degree left turn to join runway 8R localizer, but the controller gave us a 90 degree turn, 'for additional spacing'. The captain did not act as if he cared. I have said several things about his speed below 10,000'. I have contacted professional standards about this matter.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACR MLG FLT CREW FAILS TO MEET SPEED RESTRICTION WHILE IN DESCENT.
Narrative: WE WERE GIVEN CLRNC TO CROSS ARLIN INTXN AT 11,000 AND 250 KTS. I TOLD THE CAPT THAT HE WAS NOT GOING TO MAKE THE XING AT THIS RATE. HE WAS GOING ABOUT 25 KTS LESS THAN NORMAL DSCNT SPEED. SO HE PUSHED THE NOSE OVER TO INCREASE DSCNT BUT WOULD NOT USE THE SPEED BRAKE. THEN I SAID (TO CLUE HIM IN AGAIN), YOU WILL MAKE THE ALT BUT NOT THE SPEED. EVEN THIS DID NOT SEEM TO PHASE HIM SO WE CROSSED AT 320 KTS. WE WERE NOT FOLLOWING TFC TOO CLOSE, BUT NORMALLY AFTER ARLIN INTXN WE MAKE A 30 DEG LEFT TURN TO JOIN RWY 8R LOC, BUT THE CTLR GAVE US A 90 DEG TURN, 'FOR ADDITIONAL SPACING'. THE CAPT DID NOT ACT AS IF HE CARED. I HAVE SAID SEVERAL THINGS ABOUT HIS SPEED BELOW 10,000'. I HAVE CONTACTED PROFESSIONAL STANDARDS ABOUT THIS MATTER.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.