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Attributes | |
ACN | 159786 |
Time | |
Date | 199010 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : hnk |
State Reference | NY |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 19000 msl bound upper : 22000 |
Environment | |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zny |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | cruise other descent other |
Route In Use | enroute airway : zny |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : cfi pilot : commercial pilot : flight engineer pilot : instrument |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 230 flight time total : 2400 flight time type : 750 |
ASRS Report | 159786 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : crossing restriction not met altitude deviation : undershoot non adherence : clearance |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | none taken : insufficient time |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Clearance was given to cross 10 NM southeast of hancock VOR at FL190. We were level at FL220 (50 NM west of hnk). Captain was flying. He mentioned that we would start down just before crossing hancock. Just before hnk the captain gave me control of the aircraft so that he could look something up in the flight manual. We both forgot the restriction until queried by ATC. At that time a descent was started and we leveled at FL190 at 12.5 southeast of hnk. There was no traffic conflict and ATC said no problem. When control of the aircraft is changed (or at any other time, for that matter) both pilots need to be aware of all clrncs, not just the PF. In our case, when I took control of the aircraft, I had not been paying attention to aircraft position, and the captain disregarded aircraft position, therefore putting us both out of the picture. In the future, besides being more aware of our position and checking the PF's performance, when aircraft control is changed, I will verify all clrncs and check what the PF expects me to do in order to comply with them.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACR MLG ALT DEVIATION UNDERSHOT CROSSING RESTRICTION.
Narrative: CLRNC WAS GIVEN TO CROSS 10 NM SE OF HANCOCK VOR AT FL190. WE WERE LEVEL AT FL220 (50 NM W OF HNK). CAPT WAS FLYING. HE MENTIONED THAT WE WOULD START DOWN JUST BEFORE XING HANCOCK. JUST BEFORE HNK THE CAPT GAVE ME CTL OF THE ACFT SO THAT HE COULD LOOK SOMETHING UP IN THE FLT MANUAL. WE BOTH FORGOT THE RESTRICTION UNTIL QUERIED BY ATC. AT THAT TIME A DSNT WAS STARTED AND WE LEVELED AT FL190 AT 12.5 SE OF HNK. THERE WAS NO TFC CONFLICT AND ATC SAID NO PROB. WHEN CTL OF THE ACFT IS CHANGED (OR AT ANY OTHER TIME, FOR THAT MATTER) BOTH PLTS NEED TO BE AWARE OF ALL CLRNCS, NOT JUST THE PF. IN OUR CASE, WHEN I TOOK CTL OF THE ACFT, I HAD NOT BEEN PAYING ATTN TO ACFT POS, AND THE CAPT DISREGARDED ACFT POS, THEREFORE PUTTING US BOTH OUT OF THE PICTURE. IN THE FUTURE, BESIDES BEING MORE AWARE OF OUR POS AND CHKING THE PF'S PERFORMANCE, WHEN ACFT CTL IS CHANGED, I WILL VERIFY ALL CLRNCS AND CHK WHAT THE PF EXPECTS ME TO DO IN ORDER TO COMPLY WITH THEM.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.