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Attributes | |
ACN | 135352 |
Time | |
Date | 199001 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : fay |
State Reference | NC |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 13300 msl bound upper : 14000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Light Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turboprop Eng |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
Route In Use | departure other enroute airway : zdc |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | controller radar : 5 flight time last 90 days : 250 flight time total : 8500 flight time type : 4000 |
ASRS Report | 135352 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : overshoot non adherence : required legal separation non adherence : published procedure |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 18000 vertical : 500 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Operational Error Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
At about XA09 local time, we contacted ZDC and reported level at 10,000. Fay approach control had handed us off to ZDC. ZDC cleared us to 16,000. Leaving 13,300 center said to maintain 13,000 because we had traffic at 8 O'clock and 4 mi at 14,000 (crossing paths). My first officer read back 16,000 to center when we were cleared above 10,000. I believe that too much controller training is taking place by controllers with very little experience. I am positive that we were cleared to 16,000. But suppose we were not. If we read back the wrong altitude, it is still the controller's responsibility to make sure that we understood the clearance, isn't it?
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACR ISSUED CLIMB THROUGH OCCUPIED ALT RESULTING IN LESS THAN STANDARD SEPARATION.
Narrative: AT ABOUT XA09 LCL TIME, WE CONTACTED ZDC AND REPORTED LEVEL AT 10,000. FAY APCH CTL HAD HANDED US OFF TO ZDC. ZDC CLRED US TO 16,000. LEAVING 13,300 CENTER SAID TO MAINTAIN 13,000 BECAUSE WE HAD TFC AT 8 O'CLOCK AND 4 MI AT 14,000 (XING PATHS). MY F/O READ BACK 16,000 TO CENTER WHEN WE WERE CLRED ABOVE 10,000. I BELIEVE THAT TOO MUCH CTLR TRAINING IS TAKING PLACE BY CTLRS WITH VERY LITTLE EXPERIENCE. I AM POSITIVE THAT WE WERE CLRED TO 16,000. BUT SUPPOSE WE WERE NOT. IF WE READ BACK THE WRONG ALT, IT IS STILL THE CTLR'S RESPONSIBILITY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE UNDERSTOOD THE CLRNC, ISN'T IT?
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.