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Attributes | |
ACN | 135743 |
Time | |
Date | 199002 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : dfw |
State Reference | TX |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 2000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | Mixed |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : dfw tower : alb |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Navigation In Use | Other |
Flight Phase | cruise other descent : approach descent other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Light Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turboprop Eng |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 180 flight time total : 5000 flight time type : 3000 |
ASRS Report | 135743 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : required legal separation other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 12600 vertical : 600 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
Given a clearance of 'turn left to 030 degrees, maintain 3000', speed 190 KIAS, cleared for an ILS 36L approach.' we broke out just before the marker. I could see the tail lights of the aircraft in front of us. He was much too close for comfort. The first officer slowed early. The tower supervisor said to slow to 20 KTS, then said to slow to final approach speed. I said we would do s-turns. We did several turns. The aircraft landed with our DME reading 2.1. He also was slow to clear the runway. He cleared when we were 50' on the radio altitude. I almost went around, but decided it could work at 100'. It was better to land than go back into the circuit breaker's in the area. I felt the pilot flew like a light airplane driver with no awareness of the big picture. Those guys aren't used to hub airports.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ARR ACFT MADE S-TURNS ON FINAL APCH TO MAINTAIN SPACING BEHIND FIRST ACFT.
Narrative: GIVEN A CLRNC OF 'TURN LEFT TO 030 DEGS, MAINTAIN 3000', SPD 190 KIAS, CLRED FOR AN ILS 36L APCH.' WE BROKE OUT JUST BEFORE THE MARKER. I COULD SEE THE TAIL LIGHTS OF THE ACFT IN FRONT OF US. HE WAS MUCH TOO CLOSE FOR COMFORT. THE F/O SLOWED EARLY. THE TWR SUPVR SAID TO SLOW TO 20 KTS, THEN SAID TO SLOW TO FINAL APCH SPD. I SAID WE WOULD DO S-TURNS. WE DID SEVERAL TURNS. THE ACFT LANDED WITH OUR DME READING 2.1. HE ALSO WAS SLOW TO CLR THE RWY. HE CLRED WHEN WE WERE 50' ON THE RADIO ALT. I ALMOST WENT AROUND, BUT DECIDED IT COULD WORK AT 100'. IT WAS BETTER TO LAND THAN GO BACK INTO THE CB'S IN THE AREA. I FELT THE PLT FLEW LIKE A LIGHT AIRPLANE DRIVER WITH NO AWARENESS OF THE BIG PICTURE. THOSE GUYS AREN'T USED TO HUB ARPTS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.