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Attributes | |
ACN | 1359267 |
Time | |
Date | 201605 |
Local Time Of Day | 1201-1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | DFW.Airport |
State Reference | TX |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | Marginal |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Make Model Name | Regional Jet 700 ER/LR (CRJ700) |
Flight Phase | Descent |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Function | First Officer Pilot Not Flying |
Qualification | Flight Crew Air Transport Pilot (ATP) |
Person 2 | |
Function | Captain Pilot Flying |
Qualification | Flight Crew Air Transport Pilot (ATP) |
Events | |
Anomaly | ATC Issue All Types Deviation - Altitude Undershoot Deviation - Altitude Crossing Restriction Not Met Deviation - Procedural Published Material / Policy Deviation - Procedural Clearance |
Narrative:
On the VKTRY2 RNAV arrival into dfw; we were kept high; and requested to maintain 310 knots. Then; pretty late; we were cleared to 'descend via the VKTRY2 RNAV arrival'. It was not clear if they wanted us to maintain 310 knots or the speeds on the arrival; and by the time we could ask; we were too high to make the altitude crossing restriction at glokk. We advised ATC that we were not going to make the crossing restriction; although it ended up being close. After glokk; we continued on the profile of the arrival; and made the approach and landing uneventfully.the root cause of not making the crossing restriction; was that we were kept quite high until cleared to descend via; and given confusing speed assignments. A contributing factor was a high workload on the arrival; together with unfamiliarity with this airport; that may have caused a distraction in which we did not realize on time; that we were not descending quickly enough to make this crossing restriction.especially in unfamiliar airports; it is important to study the arrival carefully; and try to identify any crossing restrictions that could be potentially challenging. Additionally; it is important to constantly watch the required rate of descent required for all the points ahead on the arrival; and monitor closely any rates that start looking excessive. If they do; query ATC for the need to descend; or start slowing down if able; to assist in loosing energy; making it easier to descend rapidly.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: CRJ-700 flight crew reported a late descent clearance from ZFW on the VKTRY2 RNAV arrival resulting in a missed crossing restriction at GLOKK.
Narrative: On the VKTRY2 RNAV arrival into DFW; we were kept high; and requested to maintain 310 knots. Then; pretty late; we were cleared to 'Descend Via the VKTRY2 RNAV arrival'. It was not clear if they wanted us to maintain 310 knots or the speeds on the arrival; and by the time we could ask; we were too high to make the altitude crossing restriction at GLOKK. We advised ATC that we were not going to make the crossing restriction; although it ended up being close. After GLOKK; we continued on the profile of the arrival; and made the approach and landing uneventfully.The root cause of not making the crossing restriction; was that we were kept quite high until cleared to descend via; and given confusing speed assignments. A contributing factor was a high workload on the arrival; together with unfamiliarity with this airport; that may have caused a distraction in which we did not realize on time; that we were not descending quickly enough to make this crossing restriction.Especially in unfamiliar airports; it is important to study the arrival carefully; and try to identify any crossing restrictions that could be potentially challenging. Additionally; it is important to constantly watch the required rate of descent required for all the points ahead on the arrival; and monitor closely any rates that start looking excessive. If they do; query ATC for the need to descend; or start slowing down if able; to assist in loosing energy; making it easier to descend rapidly.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.