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Attributes | |
ACN | 137678 |
Time | |
Date | 199002 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 0001 To 0600 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : atl |
State Reference | GA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 1026 msl bound upper : 5000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : atl |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Large Transport, Low Wing, 3 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | climbout : takeoff ground : preflight ground other : taxi |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 215 flight time total : 10000 flight time type : 7500 |
ASRS Report | 137678 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : far non adherence other |
Independent Detector | other other : unspecified |
Resolutory Action | other other |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Ambiguous |
Air Traffic Incident | other other |
Narrative:
On climbout we were asked by atl departure to contact the company. The company informed us that the automated weight and balance sheet omitted 20 coach passenger and they gave us the adjusted weights. The second officer did not notice or advise me of the original discrepancy. The first officer and I also missed the count discrepancy since the weights on the weight and balance were the same as that on our flight plan. In this case there was no problem since the original weight was 134,026 and the adjusted weight was 137,600. A potential problem, however, did exist.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACR LGT DEPARTS WITH IMPROPER WEIGHT AND BALANCE INFORMATION.
Narrative: ON CLIMBOUT WE WERE ASKED BY ATL DEP TO CONTACT THE COMPANY. THE COMPANY INFORMED US THAT THE AUTOMATED WEIGHT AND BALANCE SHEET OMITTED 20 COACH PAX AND THEY GAVE US THE ADJUSTED WEIGHTS. THE S/O DID NOT NOTICE OR ADVISE ME OF THE ORIGINAL DISCREPANCY. THE F/O AND I ALSO MISSED THE COUNT DISCREPANCY SINCE THE WEIGHTS ON THE WEIGHT AND BALANCE WERE THE SAME AS THAT ON OUR FLT PLAN. IN THIS CASE THERE WAS NO PROBLEM SINCE THE ORIGINAL WEIGHT WAS 134,026 AND THE ADJUSTED WEIGHT WAS 137,600. A POTENTIAL PROBLEM, HOWEVER, DID EXIST.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.