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Attributes | |
ACN | 1390101 |
Time | |
Date | 201609 |
Local Time Of Day | 1201-1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | SNA.Airport |
State Reference | CA |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Make Model Name | Light Sport Aircraft |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | Initial Approach |
Flight Plan | VFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Make Model Name | Large Transport |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | Final Approach |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Function | Pilot Flying |
Qualification | Flight Crew Multiengine Flight Crew Air Transport Pilot (ATP) Flight Crew Flight Instructor Flight Crew Instrument |
Experience | Flight Crew Last 90 Days 180 Flight Crew Total 13000 Flight Crew Type 1 |
Events | |
Anomaly | Conflict NMAC Deviation - Procedural Published Material / Policy |
Miss Distance | Horizontal 400 Vertical 500 |
Narrative:
Returning to sna after local area orientation flight. This was my first piston flight in about 9 years although I am a current 121 ATP. We were maneuvering on a close left base for runway 20L. There was an airliner a half mile further out on final for 20R. The runways are close together and my instructor became concerned about the wake turbulence of the [large transport] should we end up behind them during landing. At approximately 300 AGL on final for 20L; the instructor took the controls and began a climbing right turn to pass over the top of the turbojet. The tower immediately told us to make left traffic and we began to maneuver back to the left. We never crossed the extended centerline for 20R and remained above the airliner's flight path. It is likely the two aircraft passed with less than 500 feet of separation.it would have been a better plan to extend downwind and base in behind the jet. We could have then judged his touchdown point and either landed beyond that point on the parallel runway or elected to go around. I did not expect the instructor to make a turn to overfly the other aircraft. I deferred to his considerable experience with both the airplane and sna procedures.I resumed control on crosswind and we made a second visual approach to 20L and landed without incident.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: General aviation pilot reported that while in the landing pattern mixed with large turbojets; he had a near miss with an airliner while avoiding potential wake turbulence.
Narrative: Returning to SNA after local area orientation flight. This was my first piston flight in about 9 years although I am a current 121 ATP. We were maneuvering on a close left base for Runway 20L. There was an airliner a half mile further out on final for 20R. The runways are close together and my instructor became concerned about the wake turbulence of the [large transport] should we end up behind them during landing. At approximately 300 AGL on final for 20L; the instructor took the controls and began a climbing right turn to pass over the top of the turbojet. The Tower immediately told us to make left traffic and we began to maneuver back to the left. We never crossed the extended centerline for 20R and remained above the airliner's flight path. It is likely the two aircraft passed with less than 500 feet of separation.It would have been a better plan to extend downwind and base in behind the jet. We could have then judged his touchdown point and either landed beyond that point on the parallel runway or elected to go around. I did not expect the instructor to make a turn to overfly the other aircraft. I deferred to his considerable experience with both the airplane and SNA procedures.I resumed control on crosswind and we made a second visual approach to 20L and landed without incident.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.